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the gold standard of paranormal radio

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and now

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here's gene steinberg

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so we've had some pretty fascinating

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discussions here with regard to the

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appearance of paul you know

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on last week's episode of the power cast

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we was talking about the multiverse

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and i got the impression here if you

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look at the forums chris correct me if

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i'm wrong maybe some feel he went a

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little too far a little too

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all-inclusive in these

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endless reality changes

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yeah yeah and i i do kind of agree with

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that i have a hard time dealing with a

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you know just some buzz terms in physics

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you know the collapsing of wave function

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and that sort of thing to try to

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explain all paranormal phenomena or at

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least the connections between them i

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he kind of left me it left me cold

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uh with all that i didn't know exactly

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how to refute what he was saying at the

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time but you know after thinking about

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it for a while i think it's a little bit

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more complicated than that and you can't

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just uh look at a many worlds

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interpretation of reality and and the

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collapse of wave function to explain

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put it that way for uh

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possible convergent points between um

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between paranormal phenomena so you know

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i think it's it's way grossly

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oversimplifying what we're dealing with

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well i think it's like everything else

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it's the effort to try to find

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some kind of workable explanation and

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sometimes you're pressing

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too many levers you want everything to

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because many boxes can become

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complicated so instead of having a

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completely separate box these are dead

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people

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these are missing links

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these are flying saucers from zeta

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reticuli or something

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homogenize it and pasteurize it and now

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if only it was that simple

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the possibility we are in ever-changing

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realities

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things sometimes change

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in ways that we don't perceive but

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suddenly we're at loggerheads with it

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and part of that just we just don't

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understand really and right now

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we have quantum mechanics let's make

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everything in the world quantum

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and next year will be warp drive i don't

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in any case the point is he's asking

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someone that's that's using creative

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thinking and in trying to apply science

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to something as opposed to you know the

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spouting off what they hear on their

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television and what they uh you know

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least the man is educated has a passion

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for the subject that enables him to

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everything uh lock stock and barrel like

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vulnerable sometimes though we did hear

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one of the earliest guests on the power

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harsh treatment and he deserved it was

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this guy sean david morton oh god

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he claimed to be everything psychic and

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and his wife have been sentenced to

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terms that even bernie madoff

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the last i heard it was something in our

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i don't think they've been sentenced yet

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how do you face over 600 years in prison

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people they'll never return so

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never really work the way you want them

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it's not simple building

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it's not buying a book that's fake or

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see if you can see flying saucers and

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paying a little bit too much for that

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this was a lot of money i think this

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duo was doing so you know couldn't

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people be stuck in prisons but if you do

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how it goes

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so there it is sean davis morton and not

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guest host in somebody else's paranormal

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or sometimes paranormal show

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and we decided not to do it because my

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approach was a little bit too as i say

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this was somebody who believed in sean

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when i explained to her no this is not

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what's going on anyway

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we're glad and we have cutting-edge

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people on the show like paul eno

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gordon who's a long time researcher from

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activity but also about his feelings of

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multiple dimensions explanations and

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such like that

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stanford's appearance a couple of weeks

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reminisced about the contactees of the

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1950s and one of our forum members who

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possibly in a few weeks

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still insists that daniel frye i guess

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you read this chris daniel fry seemed to

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know a lot about science

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more than you'd expect him to know

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and stuff that he was writing about that

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relates to current developments have you

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been following that discussion

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you know i'm not that familiar with uh

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daniel fry um i do have

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uh one of his books i think the white

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sands incident uh which i haven't read

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fairly knowledgeable to you know my

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memory i read the book 20 plus years ago

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um so so there is some

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i think there's some jargon in there

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that might impress some people but

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but when you start hoaxing things and

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you start confabulating in all this it

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doesn't matter who the hell you are and

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how much you know

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you know what sort of scientific

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background you have you're just throwing

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uh just on the strength of attempting to

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to defraud people

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about who said what and what what they

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much going on i just can't wait through

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some of it i hate to say that i do try

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my eyes just glazed over i i just

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haven't been doing that that good in the

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last week so that's part of it i haven't

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had the patience i guess but at some

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point i'll go through there and read it

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it's a lot i mean he writes a message

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effort and i appreciate and i admire the

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uh the diligence

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and stuff but yeah i just have to be in

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the right frame of mind to be able to

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dive through stuff like that um

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especially when it has to do with this

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something that i've been battling

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against ever since i got involved in

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this field and that is battling the uh

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you know the yahoos i'm just i'm so

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of of people trying to create cults of

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personality around themselves try to

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pull the will over people's eyes try to

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sell more books try to put more butts in

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seats by coming up with bs scenarios and

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science you might know a little bit of

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philosophy but if you're a bs artist i

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hey so let's talk to somebody who

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takes a noble approach

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much much uh much preferable definitely

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his name is stan gordon

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he's joining us next with gene and chris

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so i have to tell you

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we're always delighted to have stan

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gordon on the power cast because he has

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large collections of what could be only

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called weird stuff and i'm not talking

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about the political spectrum now we're

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not doing politics today we're talking

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strictly about

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things in the sky things that go bump in

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the night weird creatures everything

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like that

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and what i'm seeing here stan gordon is

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that

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in your home state of pennsylvania which

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i love pennsylvania by the way i had

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some of the happiest years of my life

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there

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in pennsylvania i'm buttering them up

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here in pennsylvania you seem to have a

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pretty good collection of stuff year

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after year even when people sort of

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think well maybe ufos are passe

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i'm telling you look i'm looking at all

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the cases you've got up there

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it never stops

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well you're only seeing just a sample of

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the reports that come in i mean you know

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i've been doing this now since 1959 i've

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been out in the field since 1965

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investigating ufos bigfoot kryptos and

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other phenomena

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surprising to your listeners and all the

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years i've been doing this so it's going

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to be 58 years this year i have never

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seen ufo bigfoot myself

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surprises a lot of people interviewed

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thousands of witnesses have seen

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and gathered a lot of really interesting

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physical evidence over the years but

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i've never had my own personal encounter

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and this phenomenon has been going on

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for a long long time i mean going back

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to the native americans to even those

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newspaper accounts from the 1800s of

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pennsylvania it talks about strange

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encounters so the phenomenon has been

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ongoing here for for many many years

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now this is an interesting point here in

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terms of the number of sightings it's

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been pretty consistent based on the

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charts you've been posting

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oh it's unending i mean it's all year

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round every year i mean there's been

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some very interesting cases already this

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year last year was very busy

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over the years we've had periodic

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massive outbreaks such as that famous

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73-74 wave of ufos and bigfoot we can

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talk about those are very rare when

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those type of outbreaks occur but the

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phenomena it never ends even in recent

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years

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we're getting some of those classic ufo

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reports i call them the classic reports

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because what we used to hear about in

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the late 50s and 60s and 70s of a large

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low-level objects seen as low level

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sometimes near the ground or on the

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ground where where there was detail see

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not just lights in the sky so these are

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the classic cases stan that we used to

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hear about in the 50s and 60s and the

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feeling has been well we don't see the

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really close-up stuff anymore but you're

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telling me now we do oh yeah we get some

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i mean we're not having huge numbers but

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we're getting some of those great

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reports the whole problem is that people

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say well how come it's never in the news

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well the reason is because the majority

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of witnesses that call here and i'm sure

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most other

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outlets is that they want no publicity

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you know i get calls here from people

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from all walks of life from

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air traffic controllers military and

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commercial pilots state troopers

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people from all walks of life who call

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in with reports 99 of them with no

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publicity whatsoever in fact they're

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very reluctant to even call in i mean i

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deal with this almost every day with

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current and past reports and the

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stranger the report is the more unlikely

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they are to wanted publicity so a lot of

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people who have encounters with bigfoot

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and other cryptids or close range ufo

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encounters they're very reluctant to

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publicly want to talk about it you'd

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think after all these years that ufos

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have been in the public eye

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that people

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talk about the things that have happened

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to them you have the reality shows and

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everything

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people do you think are more inclined

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than ever

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to be secretive about this or what

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no i think more and more people are

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talking about it i mean i do a lot of

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presentations around the country and i

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i'm in contact with lots of people in

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the public on a regular basis the

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interest is amazing people are very

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interested in this phenomena

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still many about the eyewitnesses for

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various reasons they know what they saw

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even though in some cases it's hard for

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them to even believe what they saw but

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they're reluctant still to talk about it

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except sometimes their relatives are

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friends it's still the situation with so

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many eyewitnesses out there

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so what is someone like you who has

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been researching this as you say for

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close to six decades now how do you draw

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people out or can you

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i'm not sure exactly why you're talking

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about hockey to tell who's credible and

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who isn't is that what you know how do

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you persuade someone who has seen

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something really weird to talk about it

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well no i've been doing this for a long

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time i mean my hotline has been open

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since 1969 and it's out there and it's

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amazing i mean every i can say almost

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every day calls come in or emails come

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in concerning current and past reports

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including today already and it's ongoing

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it never ends but some people have

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waited

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months weeks many many years before

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they'll even call in i mean i just had

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an email for someone here a little bit

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ago who wants to talk to me about

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something that are very reluctant to

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talk about

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and i'm not even sure exactly what all

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the details are yet but this is what i

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get from people and once again it seems

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as though the stranger the encounter

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that more reluctant than they are to go

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public and they'll share it with me even

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someone would like to even tell me about

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it because they'll think they'll think

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that i'm thinking they're crazy and i

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always let them say look i've been doing

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this for a long time i'm very

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open-minded you know i'm more willing to

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listen to your story and discuss it with

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you and so many of these people

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afterwards are so happy to find out that

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they're not alone that quite often

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people in the area reported the same

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thing or historically

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other people around the country or in

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pennsylvania have reported something

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similar with very similar details and

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many of them said they were so thankful

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that they could finally talk to somebody

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about it because it made themselves so

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much better

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yeah i'd like to chime in here real

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quick uh stan and absolutely agree 100

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with

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sort of observations about how people

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tend to be more reluctant

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to come forward

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based on the high strangeness of the

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case the higher strange the case

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the less likely it is to be reported

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especially officially reported

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but in in in our cases as investigators

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um you know with a with a

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a whole network of of potential

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sightings citing uh sources

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that people tend to be more reluctant i

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think to uh uh to report uh the higher

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strange cases and and you know you're

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i think you're more and more mundane

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sightings people feel more comfortable

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and don't feel

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um

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as

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reticent or reluctant to come forward i

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also noticed that when people feel that

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they've been victimized such as ranchers

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and cattle mutilations or

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or people that have had a a bigfoot

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encounter that maybe was scary let's say

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or

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a haunting that uh that tended to be uh

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have the appearance of negativity

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that that also has a tendency to

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dissuade people from reporting uh their

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experiences

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oh i i agree 100

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and in fact as you know and this

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phenomena you know i've said this many

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times in the past the phenomenon is so

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strange it protects itself there's a lot

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more

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to bigfoot

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and the cryptid and certain aspects of

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ufo phenomena than many people want to

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get into

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or realize

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it's much much stranger

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and i'm not so sure anybody has the

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answers for sure as to what we're

603
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dealing with but you know sometimes this

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phenomena seems to focus on certain

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individuals or families or properties

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and it goes on sometimes for days or

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weeks or months or longer and a lot of

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those people and and i know of some of

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those ongoing cases right now and

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they're they're very reluctant to tell

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people about the the poltergeist

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activity the strange lights the screams

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the footprints the hairy bigfoot they're

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seeing on their property and i know

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you've had something like that somewhere

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out your way as well over the years

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we'll have more with stan gordon ufo

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that people have been having in the

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state of pennsylvania we'll get into

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that in a moment now the thing you point

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out here which we have mentioned often

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is that when you talk to people who have

764
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weird encounters like ufos there's

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something else going on also quite often

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they've had other experiences it's not

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just

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a lonely sighting and one of the things

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we kind of rag on here on the power cast

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stand

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is the fact that some ufo investigators

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look at the ufo as an external event

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all right you're there you see it let's

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get the details and go on with our lives

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and you're pointing out here that's not

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that easy because it may be one of many

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to an individual and possibly their

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families right

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yeah there's variations in the type of

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reports come in some are just one

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being the right place at a right time

783
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ufo observation or bigfoot encounter but

784
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in some cases and i

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started to study this years and years

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ago but unfortunately you know working

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full-time having no funding having

788
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multitudes of ongoing reports coming in

789
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across the state running three volunteer

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groups for many many years out of our

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own pockets you couldn't do the studies

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i wanted to do but i began years ago to

793
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look into the backgrounds of certain

794
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people who are having some of these

795
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encounters

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and some of these people even today from

797
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20 30 years ago i'm still in touch with

798
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and it's been very interesting to see

799
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how the phenomena affected other

800
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generations of families so some of these

801
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people

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originally started as young children

803
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having apparitions ghost hauntings in

804
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their home later there there was ufo

805
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activity

806
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some encountered bigfoot other ones

807
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throughout their lives at other

808
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encounters and then later

809
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uh children and grandchildren had the

810
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experiences as well i think again

811
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there's much more to this than any of us

812
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understand a lot of these sightings are

813
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just sporadic where a person has one

814
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sighting but there's a there's a lot of

815
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odd activity going on with some of these

816
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reports i mean years ago i remember

817
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there were some cases where there would

818
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be a group of people

819
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and only certain people within that

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group

821
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were able to describe

822
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seeing this large flying object hovering

823
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nearby and the others couldn't see it

824
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i've speculated for years that whatever

825
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phenomena we're dealing with we may be

826
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dealing with more than one origin for a

827
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lot of these mysteries that are going on

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that maybe certain people have certain

829
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abilities that they're able to have the

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experience or perceive certain activity

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other people can't or the phenomena

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whatever it is is attracted to certain

833
00:30:56,630 --> 00:30:54,000
people

834
00:30:59,110 --> 00:30:56,640
and it just makes it much more complex

835
00:31:01,350 --> 00:30:59,120
and it's just an amazing mystery we're

836
00:31:03,830 --> 00:31:01,360
dealing with well should we then be

837
00:31:05,590 --> 00:31:03,840
doing 23andme

838
00:31:08,149 --> 00:31:05,600
genetic testing and some of these people

839
00:31:10,070 --> 00:31:08,159
to see if there's a commonality in their

840
00:31:12,310 --> 00:31:10,080
genetic profiles

841
00:31:14,549 --> 00:31:12,320
well that might be interesting

842
00:31:17,269 --> 00:31:14,559
from what i recall from years and years

843
00:31:19,029 --> 00:31:17,279
ago i began to find certain things

844
00:31:20,149 --> 00:31:19,039
uh one thing i remember finding with

845
00:31:22,070 --> 00:31:20,159
this

846
00:31:23,510 --> 00:31:22,080
certain individuals

847
00:31:24,870 --> 00:31:23,520
had a

848
00:31:27,430 --> 00:31:24,880
i'm trying to remember it was a very

849
00:31:29,110 --> 00:31:27,440
severe back or neck injury

850
00:31:30,630 --> 00:31:29,120
that was showing up in some of the cases

851
00:31:31,990 --> 00:31:30,640
more than normal

852
00:31:33,510 --> 00:31:32,000
i think some of these people had

853
00:31:35,110 --> 00:31:33,520
unusually

854
00:31:36,549 --> 00:31:35,120
low blood pressure

855
00:31:37,990 --> 00:31:36,559
there was just certain things that were

856
00:31:39,430 --> 00:31:38,000
showing up when i was talking these

857
00:31:41,430 --> 00:31:39,440
people that i thought was kind of

858
00:31:44,630 --> 00:31:41,440
interesting and that's from oh my gosh

859
00:31:46,389 --> 00:31:44,640
that's going back 30 40 years ago

860
00:31:47,830 --> 00:31:46,399
oh okay

861
00:31:50,789 --> 00:31:47,840
you know what that's the thing also it

862
00:31:53,509 --> 00:31:50,799
bothers me too in getting somewhere in

863
00:31:55,029 --> 00:31:53,519
the ufo field how do we show other

864
00:31:57,750 --> 00:31:55,039
people and certainly we've been talking

865
00:32:00,470 --> 00:31:57,760
about it here chris spent

866
00:32:01,990 --> 00:32:00,480
so many years in the mysterious valley

867
00:32:03,509 --> 00:32:02,000
following up all sorts of different

868
00:32:06,149 --> 00:32:03,519
cases

869
00:32:07,990 --> 00:32:06,159
how do we persuade like a mufon

870
00:32:09,990 --> 00:32:08,000
to look at this because that's not on

871
00:32:11,750 --> 00:32:10,000
their radar

872
00:32:13,830 --> 00:32:11,760
well you know this is part of the

873
00:32:15,669 --> 00:32:13,840
problem and you know you look into this

874
00:32:17,669 --> 00:32:15,679
and you see there's certain things and

875
00:32:19,990 --> 00:32:17,679
so i've dealt mainly with the ufo

876
00:32:22,230 --> 00:32:20,000
bigfoot phenomena because after that

877
00:32:24,149 --> 00:32:22,240
massive wave in the early 70s which

878
00:32:25,830 --> 00:32:24,159
we've talked about before we can go back

879
00:32:27,909 --> 00:32:25,840
and go through some of the highlights of

880
00:32:29,430 --> 00:32:27,919
that time some of the strangest events

881
00:32:31,590 --> 00:32:29,440
ever documented there were a

882
00:32:34,389 --> 00:32:31,600
well-documented case for example with

883
00:32:37,590 --> 00:32:34,399
ufos and bigfoot seen together and once

884
00:32:39,990 --> 00:32:37,600
again i keep stressing i'm not saying

885
00:32:41,909 --> 00:32:40,000
that bigfoot is extraterrestrial we

886
00:32:44,310 --> 00:32:41,919
don't know what these things are but

887
00:32:46,310 --> 00:32:44,320
there were strong cases where ufos and

888
00:32:47,669 --> 00:32:46,320
bigfoot were seen together at the same

889
00:32:49,750 --> 00:32:47,679
time in place

890
00:32:52,149 --> 00:32:49,760
and other phenomena sometimes involving

891
00:32:54,230 --> 00:32:52,159
some of the situations and once again

892
00:32:55,669 --> 00:32:54,240
even with the ufos

893
00:32:57,590 --> 00:32:55,679
i've said for years there's more than

894
00:33:00,389 --> 00:32:57,600
one origin for the unknown category of

895
00:33:03,110 --> 00:33:00,399
ufos could some be extraterrestrial

896
00:33:04,950 --> 00:33:03,120
possibly could these things for a lack

897
00:33:06,789 --> 00:33:04,960
of a better term be interdimensional

898
00:33:08,950 --> 00:33:06,799
could they be time travelers unknown

899
00:33:11,190 --> 00:33:08,960
natural phenomena there's so many

900
00:33:12,149 --> 00:33:11,200
answers we don't have questions for

901
00:33:16,950 --> 00:33:12,159
and

902
00:33:19,269 --> 00:33:16,960
sure others in the field too is that the

903
00:33:21,750 --> 00:33:19,279
ufo community does not want to associate

904
00:33:24,070 --> 00:33:21,760
ufos with bigfoot and vice versa those

905
00:33:26,310 --> 00:33:24,080
in the bigfoot field who feel that these

906
00:33:28,230 --> 00:33:26,320
things are probably some type of unknown

907
00:33:30,230 --> 00:33:28,240
primate which i thought for years and

908
00:33:31,990 --> 00:33:30,240
years and i still keep an open mind all

909
00:33:34,630 --> 00:33:32,000
possibilities that they don't want to

910
00:33:36,710 --> 00:33:34,640
associate that with ufo sightings the

911
00:33:39,029 --> 00:33:36,720
problem is it's not just something

912
00:33:40,549 --> 00:33:39,039
happens in pennsylvania these incidents

913
00:33:42,310 --> 00:33:40,559
i'm aware of happen all over the country

914
00:33:43,509 --> 00:33:42,320
in many parts of the world

915
00:33:45,430 --> 00:33:43,519
there's all

916
00:33:47,430 --> 00:33:45,440
there may well be a lot more to these

917
00:33:49,269 --> 00:33:47,440
cases than people know about but what i

918
00:33:52,070 --> 00:33:49,279
found out years ago is that many

919
00:33:53,669 --> 00:33:52,080
researchers who had these cases or had

920
00:33:55,669 --> 00:33:53,679
experiences or knowledge of them they

921
00:33:57,830 --> 00:33:55,679
were reluctant to publish their findings

922
00:34:00,149 --> 00:33:57,840
because they didn't want be ridiculed by

923
00:34:02,310 --> 00:34:00,159
their fellow researchers and a lot of

924
00:34:05,110 --> 00:34:02,320
witnesses are reluctant to talk about it

925
00:34:07,430 --> 00:34:05,120
but i can tell you in more recent years

926
00:34:09,030 --> 00:34:07,440
and i've had a great response my solid

927
00:34:11,589 --> 00:34:09,040
invasion book which talks about these

928
00:34:13,430 --> 00:34:11,599
cases but i've had so many people now

929
00:34:15,829 --> 00:34:13,440
from both fields come to me and say you

930
00:34:17,669 --> 00:34:15,839
know what what you're talking about is

931
00:34:19,669 --> 00:34:17,679
beginning to make sense especially

932
00:34:21,030 --> 00:34:19,679
involving bigfoot because i've said for

933
00:34:22,470 --> 00:34:21,040
so many years

934
00:34:25,109 --> 00:34:22,480
something just doesn't make any sense

935
00:34:26,550 --> 00:34:25,119
here you've got how many bigfoot cities

936
00:34:28,710 --> 00:34:26,560
every year across the country and

937
00:34:31,030 --> 00:34:28,720
multitudes in pennsylvania and other

938
00:34:33,750 --> 00:34:31,040
areas and across the world something

939
00:34:36,149 --> 00:34:33,760
similar and yet after all these years we

940
00:34:37,750 --> 00:34:36,159
still have very little physical evidence

941
00:34:40,790 --> 00:34:37,760
we have no bodies

942
00:34:42,310 --> 00:34:40,800
which is only common sense that by now

943
00:34:44,470 --> 00:34:42,320
even though these things are rare

944
00:34:46,069 --> 00:34:44,480
compared to seeing other natural animals

945
00:34:47,909 --> 00:34:46,079
they've been seen for so long you would

946
00:34:49,909 --> 00:34:47,919
think by now that somebody would have

947
00:34:51,270 --> 00:34:49,919
found a dead one i don't recommend

948
00:34:53,030 --> 00:34:51,280
shooting at them but somebody would have

949
00:34:54,950 --> 00:34:53,040
shot one and we had numerous cases in

950
00:34:57,430 --> 00:34:54,960
pennsylvania where people shot at them

951
00:34:59,109 --> 00:34:57,440
and never brought one down or

952
00:35:00,950 --> 00:34:59,119
people would hit one with a car and we

953
00:35:02,630 --> 00:35:00,960
got some strange cases about that as

954
00:35:04,390 --> 00:35:02,640
well and

955
00:35:05,990 --> 00:35:04,400
there's more to this we understand and

956
00:35:08,790 --> 00:35:06,000
when you look at some of the cases that

957
00:35:09,990 --> 00:35:08,800
i've personally investigated and cases i

958
00:35:12,150 --> 00:35:10,000
know of throughout the country and

959
00:35:14,710 --> 00:35:12,160
around the world some of those cases

960
00:35:16,310 --> 00:35:14,720
strongly suggest that bigfoot may very

961
00:35:18,069 --> 00:35:16,320
well be something other than flesh and

962
00:35:20,790 --> 00:35:18,079
blood

963
00:35:22,310 --> 00:35:20,800
but how do you possibly prove it that's

964
00:35:23,589 --> 00:35:22,320
always the rub

965
00:35:25,910 --> 00:35:23,599
and

966
00:35:28,470 --> 00:35:25,920
we we may not be able to prove at this

967
00:35:30,550 --> 00:35:28,480
point all you can do is gather the data

968
00:35:31,750 --> 00:35:30,560
gather all this information compare the

969
00:35:33,750 --> 00:35:31,760
information

970
00:35:35,510 --> 00:35:33,760
sometime in the future i think as we're

971
00:35:38,550 --> 00:35:35,520
looking at the areas of science now it's

972
00:35:40,790 --> 00:35:38,560
beginning to open up certain areas

973
00:35:43,910 --> 00:35:40,800
i think as our technology advances the

974
00:35:45,750 --> 00:35:43,920
instrumentation they will be able to uh

975
00:35:48,310 --> 00:35:45,760
perceive some of this phenomena around

976
00:35:49,990 --> 00:35:48,320
us some of this energy but right now you

977
00:35:51,510 --> 00:35:50,000
know you can only do what you can do you

978
00:35:53,829 --> 00:35:51,520
can gather what physical evidence you

979
00:35:55,670 --> 00:35:53,839
can gather all the data do the

980
00:35:57,750 --> 00:35:55,680
comparisons compare the data from around

981
00:35:59,910 --> 00:35:57,760
the country and around the world and see

982
00:36:01,270 --> 00:35:59,920
where it leads us to and i mean it's

983
00:36:03,349 --> 00:36:01,280
it's been the same with the ufo

984
00:36:04,950 --> 00:36:03,359
phenomena for years i mean we've got a

985
00:36:07,270 --> 00:36:04,960
lot of theories out there there's a lot

986
00:36:09,109 --> 00:36:07,280
of great stories and information but

987
00:36:10,829 --> 00:36:09,119
it's all theoretical we just don't know

988
00:36:14,069 --> 00:36:10,839
for sure we're dealing

989
00:36:15,589 --> 00:36:14,079
with now we're going to have to split

990
00:36:17,829 --> 00:36:15,599
for a piece of business in a moment but

991
00:36:18,870 --> 00:36:17,839
let me start out with a question

992
00:36:19,750 --> 00:36:18,880
here

993
00:36:22,630 --> 00:36:19,760
if

994
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i wanted to show to people interested in

995
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these subjects that

996
00:36:28,390 --> 00:36:26,800
there's more than one

997
00:36:30,470 --> 00:36:28,400
thing going on here it's not just

998
00:36:32,790 --> 00:36:30,480
spaceships there's more involvement

999
00:36:34,950 --> 00:36:32,800
there's ufos and this other phenomena

1000
00:36:38,069 --> 00:36:34,960
going on

1001
00:36:41,430 --> 00:36:38,079
especially to specific families

1002
00:36:43,349 --> 00:36:41,440
could you give us one or two cases

1003
00:36:44,870 --> 00:36:43,359
recent ones

1004
00:36:46,870 --> 00:36:44,880
that show

1005
00:36:49,030 --> 00:36:46,880
that a lot more is going on we've got

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more to come with stan gordon and gene

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1110
00:41:16,390 --> 00:41:07,119
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1111
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this is jacques valley you're listening

1112
00:41:34,309 --> 00:41:20,880
to the power cast

1113
00:41:39,109 --> 00:41:35,910
so the question on the table is stan

1114
00:41:40,230 --> 00:41:39,119
gordon pennsylvania investigator of all

1115
00:41:41,750 --> 00:41:40,240
things

1116
00:41:44,390 --> 00:41:41,760
anomalous

1117
00:41:45,750 --> 00:41:44,400
can you maybe recite a couple of example

1118
00:41:48,069 --> 00:41:45,760
cases

1119
00:41:49,829 --> 00:41:48,079
showing where it's more than just the

1120
00:41:51,349 --> 00:41:49,839
flying saucers

1121
00:41:52,870 --> 00:41:51,359
yeah and well some of these actually

1122
00:41:54,950 --> 00:41:52,880
going to be historical

1123
00:41:58,390 --> 00:41:54,960
i'll give you one from actually last

1124
00:42:00,150 --> 00:41:58,400
year with ufos because in some cases

1125
00:42:03,030 --> 00:42:00,160
even daylight sightings where people

1126
00:42:05,270 --> 00:42:03,040
reported low-level solid objects

1127
00:42:07,349 --> 00:42:05,280
sometimes these things suddenly appear

1128
00:42:08,390 --> 00:42:07,359
and disappear they physically change

1129
00:42:10,150 --> 00:42:08,400
form

1130
00:42:12,950 --> 00:42:10,160
case last year this would have been i

1131
00:42:15,349 --> 00:42:12,960
believe october 16th this is in fayette

1132
00:42:16,470 --> 00:42:15,359
county pennsylvania this is a beautiful

1133
00:42:18,790 --> 00:42:16,480
afternoon

1134
00:42:21,270 --> 00:42:18,800
this is an area that has a tremendous

1135
00:42:23,270 --> 00:42:21,280
history of all kind of phenomena lots of

1136
00:42:25,349 --> 00:42:23,280
bigfoot reports a lot of ufo reports

1137
00:42:27,030 --> 00:42:25,359
other phenomena we'll probably talk more

1138
00:42:29,510 --> 00:42:27,040
about fayette county and the chestnut

1139
00:42:31,510 --> 00:42:29,520
ridge the chestnut ridge

1140
00:42:33,270 --> 00:42:31,520
is a hundred mile long mountain range

1141
00:42:35,750 --> 00:42:33,280
that stretches from preston county west

1142
00:42:38,470 --> 00:42:35,760
virginia through west warren indiana

1143
00:42:41,270 --> 00:42:38,480
county and southwest pa it is an area

1144
00:42:43,349 --> 00:42:41,280
that year after year there are many many

1145
00:42:45,190 --> 00:42:43,359
settings on the ridge along the border

1146
00:42:46,630 --> 00:42:45,200
of the ridge you know within a short

1147
00:42:48,710 --> 00:42:46,640
distance of the ridge where people

1148
00:42:51,109 --> 00:42:48,720
report all kind of phenomena year after

1149
00:42:53,430 --> 00:42:51,119
year but this particular event that

1150
00:42:55,270 --> 00:42:53,440
afternoon it was it was a nice afternoon

1151
00:42:58,390 --> 00:42:55,280
husband and wife were riding down route

1152
00:42:59,910 --> 00:42:58,400
43 outside of uniontown as they told me

1153
00:43:01,030 --> 00:42:59,920
they're riding down this four-lane

1154
00:43:03,430 --> 00:43:01,040
highway

1155
00:43:05,750 --> 00:43:03,440
there were cars well ahead of them and

1156
00:43:06,950 --> 00:43:05,760
ahead of them there were vehicles far

1157
00:43:08,710 --> 00:43:06,960
behind them

1158
00:43:11,829 --> 00:43:08,720
but no vehicles right in the immediate

1159
00:43:14,230 --> 00:43:11,839
area so as a riding down the road ahead

1160
00:43:16,790 --> 00:43:14,240
of them on the left side

1161
00:43:19,910 --> 00:43:16,800
above the treetops they see what looks

1162
00:43:22,790 --> 00:43:19,920
like some kind of a black misty smoke

1163
00:43:24,870 --> 00:43:22,800
that begins to form into this very large

1164
00:43:26,790 --> 00:43:24,880
black triangular object

1165
00:43:29,270 --> 00:43:26,800
and then watch as this triangular object

1166
00:43:31,829 --> 00:43:29,280
forms and that triangular object comes

1167
00:43:34,230 --> 00:43:31,839
over into the two left southbound lanes

1168
00:43:36,150 --> 00:43:34,240
of the highway and then it continues to

1169
00:43:37,430 --> 00:43:36,160
move in front of them down the road in

1170
00:43:41,349 --> 00:43:37,440
the northbound lanes that they're

1171
00:43:43,430 --> 00:43:41,359
traveling on as a watch the object

1172
00:43:45,510 --> 00:43:43,440
suddenly begins to change from the

1173
00:43:46,390 --> 00:43:45,520
rectangular object

1174
00:43:48,470 --> 00:43:46,400
to

1175
00:43:50,870 --> 00:43:48,480
the circular object

1176
00:43:53,910 --> 00:43:50,880
so it turns into a big circular object

1177
00:43:56,309 --> 00:43:53,920
begins to move back over into the two

1178
00:43:58,630 --> 00:43:56,319
left lanes where it begins to form back

1179
00:44:00,470 --> 00:43:58,640
into the big rectangular shape

1180
00:44:02,950 --> 00:44:00,480
and suddenly right in front of it just

1181
00:44:05,589 --> 00:44:02,960
vanishes from their eyes and disappears

1182
00:44:07,589 --> 00:44:05,599
so we hear reports like that that's been

1183
00:44:09,349 --> 00:44:07,599
going on for a long time

1184
00:44:11,030 --> 00:44:09,359
you know some of those famous cases with

1185
00:44:13,910 --> 00:44:11,040
bigfoot especially

1186
00:44:15,430 --> 00:44:13,920
she's going back to 73. as you might

1187
00:44:17,430 --> 00:44:15,440
recall we had the biggest outbreak in

1188
00:44:20,710 --> 00:44:17,440
history with ufo and bigfoot cities went

1189
00:44:22,630 --> 00:44:20,720
on with ufos throughout 1973 with

1190
00:44:24,710 --> 00:44:22,640
hundreds of hundreds of ufo cases in

1191
00:44:26,550 --> 00:44:24,720
pennsylvania then we had that massive

1192
00:44:30,309 --> 00:44:26,560
bigfoot outbreak in the summer that went

1193
00:44:32,230 --> 00:44:30,319
on for months into early 1974. first in

1194
00:44:33,670 --> 00:44:32,240
southwestern pennsylvania then extending

1195
00:44:36,069 --> 00:44:33,680
it to other areas

1196
00:44:37,750 --> 00:44:36,079
well initially all the reports coming in

1197
00:44:39,990 --> 00:44:37,760
and back in those days again you got to

1198
00:44:42,470 --> 00:44:40,000
remember no cell phones no internet it

1199
00:44:44,550 --> 00:44:42,480
was a different time period i had always

1200
00:44:46,870 --> 00:44:44,560
felt that bigfoot was likely an unknown

1201
00:44:49,270 --> 00:44:46,880
primate well as these reports are coming

1202
00:44:51,910 --> 00:44:49,280
in from widespread areas many calls to

1203
00:44:54,390 --> 00:44:51,920
the police departments people reporting

1204
00:44:56,870 --> 00:44:54,400
strange things concerning some of these

1205
00:44:58,150 --> 00:44:56,880
reports and even my teams of research

1206
00:45:00,470 --> 00:44:58,160
people would get out to some of these

1207
00:45:02,470 --> 00:45:00,480
locations within minutes to hours and

1208
00:45:04,550 --> 00:45:02,480
there will be trails and footprints that

1209
00:45:06,150 --> 00:45:04,560
in some cases would just suddenly stop

1210
00:45:07,589 --> 00:45:06,160
and disappear where there should have

1211
00:45:09,190 --> 00:45:07,599
been more tracks

1212
00:45:11,750 --> 00:45:09,200
just some of the oddities that showed up

1213
00:45:14,230 --> 00:45:11,760
initially i remember one fella contacted

1214
00:45:15,910 --> 00:45:14,240
the local police down in derry township

1215
00:45:17,510 --> 00:45:15,920
remember i believe he said it was him

1216
00:45:19,589 --> 00:45:17,520
and his wife that afternoon were riding

1217
00:45:21,990 --> 00:45:19,599
down the road when this large hairy

1218
00:45:22,790 --> 00:45:22,000
bigfoot creature ran out in front of his

1219
00:45:24,550 --> 00:45:22,800
car

1220
00:45:26,870 --> 00:45:24,560
he came up to it and actually he said he

1221
00:45:28,950 --> 00:45:26,880
actually hit it with the car and upon

1222
00:45:30,390 --> 00:45:28,960
impact and vanished and disappeared and

1223
00:45:33,109 --> 00:45:30,400
he actually went to the police and told

1224
00:45:34,950 --> 00:45:33,119
him that story another thing that you

1225
00:45:37,510 --> 00:45:34,960
rarely ever hear about with bigfoot but

1226
00:45:40,230 --> 00:45:37,520
we have some amazing cases is where a

1227
00:45:42,790 --> 00:45:40,240
bigfoot walks out in front of a car

1228
00:45:45,109 --> 00:45:42,800
and at that point the car begins to

1229
00:45:47,349 --> 00:45:45,119
malfunction and loses power and when the

1230
00:45:48,710 --> 00:45:47,359
creature continues to walk on the power

1231
00:45:51,190 --> 00:45:48,720
comes back on

1232
00:45:53,430 --> 00:45:51,200
uh it just goes on and on and on but the

1233
00:45:55,430 --> 00:45:53,440
one case of 74

1234
00:45:57,430 --> 00:45:55,440
that really stuck out

1235
00:45:59,109 --> 00:45:57,440
and convinced me that there was more to

1236
00:46:02,870 --> 00:45:59,119
bigfoot than just a flesh and blood

1237
00:46:04,950 --> 00:46:02,880
explanation was in february of 1974 up

1238
00:46:07,510 --> 00:46:04,960
in the mountains of fayette county up

1239
00:46:09,190 --> 00:46:07,520
near ohio pile the brief part of the

1240
00:46:11,430 --> 00:46:09,200
story is that

1241
00:46:14,550 --> 00:46:11,440
a woman who lived in her cabin

1242
00:46:16,230 --> 00:46:14,560
was sitting there watching tv she heard

1243
00:46:18,150 --> 00:46:16,240
a commotion on a little cabin porch

1244
00:46:19,190 --> 00:46:18,160
where she had some pop cans laying

1245
00:46:24,069 --> 00:46:19,200
around

1246
00:46:25,510 --> 00:46:24,079
and there had been a pack of wild dogs

1247
00:46:27,190 --> 00:46:25,520
coming through previously she figured

1248
00:46:29,990 --> 00:46:27,200
those dogs are back so she thought you

1249
00:46:31,670 --> 00:46:30,000
know what i'll grab my shotgun i'll just

1250
00:46:33,750 --> 00:46:31,680
fire over their head and scare the dogs

1251
00:46:37,109 --> 00:46:33,760
away so she loads one chamber that

1252
00:46:40,150 --> 00:46:37,119
shotgun she goes over to the front porch

1253
00:46:42,390 --> 00:46:40,160
turns on the porch light steps outside

1254
00:46:43,750 --> 00:46:42,400
and there's no dogs there but just in

1255
00:46:46,390 --> 00:46:43,760
front of her just a couple feet two

1256
00:46:47,910 --> 00:46:46,400
three feet away here's this huge

1257
00:46:49,510 --> 00:46:47,920
bigfoot type creature and she never

1258
00:46:51,430 --> 00:46:49,520
called the bigfoot she said to me she

1259
00:46:53,589 --> 00:46:51,440
then it looked like a great big hairy

1260
00:46:55,990 --> 00:46:53,599
ape but it had his arms straight up over

1261
00:46:58,150 --> 00:46:56,000
his head and she fires right into it

1262
00:47:00,630 --> 00:46:58,160
with a shotgun and blasts the thing and

1263
00:47:02,790 --> 00:47:00,640
she said it was this bright brilliant

1264
00:47:03,829 --> 00:47:02,800
flash of light like the flash on a

1265
00:47:06,309 --> 00:47:03,839
camera

1266
00:47:08,150 --> 00:47:06,319
and it disappeared right in front of her

1267
00:47:10,550 --> 00:47:08,160
it sounds to me like this is almost a

1268
00:47:12,870 --> 00:47:10,560
projection it's not a physical creature

1269
00:47:14,630 --> 00:47:12,880
so anyhow in some cases there's some

1270
00:47:17,349 --> 00:47:14,640
physical evidence left behind in this

1271
00:47:20,069 --> 00:47:17,359
case now the son-in-law and family heard

1272
00:47:22,309 --> 00:47:20,079
100 feet away the gunshot he proceeded

1273
00:47:24,069 --> 00:47:22,319
up the dirt road in the dark

1274
00:47:26,390 --> 00:47:24,079
and he said he was surrounded by four or

1275
00:47:27,670 --> 00:47:26,400
five hairy people with eyes like coals

1276
00:47:29,430 --> 00:47:27,680
of fire

1277
00:47:31,750 --> 00:47:29,440
and about the same time there's this

1278
00:47:33,349 --> 00:47:31,760
large object with numerous numerous

1279
00:47:35,510 --> 00:47:33,359
lights on hovering over the woods at the

1280
00:47:37,349 --> 00:47:35,520
same time so they were pretty scared

1281
00:47:40,150 --> 00:47:37,359
they called the state police

1282
00:47:42,230 --> 00:47:40,160
and uh the state police and

1283
00:47:44,790 --> 00:47:42,240
other uh authorities came to the scene i

1284
00:47:48,069 --> 00:47:44,800
couldn't get up early the next morning

1285
00:47:49,349 --> 00:47:48,079
and i talked to the primary investigator

1286
00:47:51,349 --> 00:47:49,359
and he said

1287
00:47:53,430 --> 00:47:51,359
something very weird happened on that

1288
00:47:54,710 --> 00:47:53,440
farm he said i don't know what it was by

1289
00:47:57,270 --> 00:47:54,720
the time we got there and found the

1290
00:47:59,030 --> 00:47:57,280
place everything was gone but how the

1291
00:48:01,109 --> 00:47:59,040
animals reacted was something that

1292
00:48:03,589 --> 00:48:01,119
really stood out that is something that

1293
00:48:05,510 --> 00:48:03,599
i have seen and it's very common a lot

1294
00:48:07,670 --> 00:48:05,520
of these reports various types of

1295
00:48:10,870 --> 00:48:07,680
animals from horses the cattle to other

1296
00:48:13,670 --> 00:48:10,880
domestic animals primarily the dogs and

1297
00:48:15,670 --> 00:48:13,680
even even the most vicious dogs when

1298
00:48:18,390 --> 00:48:15,680
they're close to these creatures they

1299
00:48:20,630 --> 00:48:18,400
won't bark they cower they cry they

1300
00:48:22,630 --> 00:48:20,640
shake they hide sometimes they won't

1301
00:48:25,270 --> 00:48:22,640
even eat right properly chris have you

1302
00:48:27,910 --> 00:48:25,280
not had cases like that yeah absolutely

1303
00:48:29,670 --> 00:48:27,920
and i've heard of many cases uh similar

1304
00:48:32,150 --> 00:48:29,680
in fact we had someone on

1305
00:48:34,870 --> 00:48:32,160
recently that talked about that

1306
00:48:36,950 --> 00:48:34,880
about a dog a very vicious dog that's uh

1307
00:48:38,549 --> 00:48:36,960
about a guard dog that uh acted like a

1308
00:48:39,589 --> 00:48:38,559
little puppy and was just peeing on

1309
00:48:41,190 --> 00:48:39,599
itself

1310
00:48:44,230 --> 00:48:41,200
he was so scared

1311
00:48:47,670 --> 00:48:44,240
and uh oftentimes you'll have

1312
00:48:50,230 --> 00:48:47,680
dogs will go hide is one thing that i i

1313
00:48:52,069 --> 00:48:50,240
tend to um it kind of sticks in my mind

1314
00:48:54,950 --> 00:48:52,079
that the the animals actually physically

1315
00:48:57,109 --> 00:48:54,960
go hide under a porch or go hide in some

1316
00:48:59,750 --> 00:48:57,119
some spot uh to be away from the

1317
00:49:01,349 --> 00:48:59,760
encounter um which is uh

1318
00:49:03,190 --> 00:49:01,359
you know obviously out of character uh

1319
00:49:05,349 --> 00:49:03,200
most of the times especially on ranches

1320
00:49:07,430 --> 00:49:05,359
where you have ranch dogs that are that

1321
00:49:09,430 --> 00:49:07,440
are pretty aggressive and uh and and

1322
00:49:12,710 --> 00:49:09,440
fairly well trained to uh to protect the

1323
00:49:14,549 --> 00:49:12,720
livestock and and you know the property

1324
00:49:16,870 --> 00:49:14,559
and that's very very common yet i hear

1325
00:49:19,109 --> 00:49:16,880
that many many times over the years

1326
00:49:20,870 --> 00:49:19,119
and there are so many oddities i mean

1327
00:49:22,790 --> 00:49:20,880
you talk about and you know over the

1328
00:49:24,230 --> 00:49:22,800
years with bigfoot you know in some

1329
00:49:26,309 --> 00:49:24,240
cases with decree and these are things a

1330
00:49:27,430 --> 00:49:26,319
lot of people don't hear about or would

1331
00:49:29,829 --> 00:49:27,440
rather

1332
00:49:31,510 --> 00:49:29,839
not acknowledge they could exist but you

1333
00:49:33,910 --> 00:49:31,520
know if you only had one report to be

1334
00:49:35,030 --> 00:49:33,920
different but when you have so many

1335
00:49:37,910 --> 00:49:35,040
reports

1336
00:49:39,670 --> 00:49:37,920
from widespread areas from different

1337
00:49:41,670 --> 00:49:39,680
credible witnesses who really don't want

1338
00:49:43,589 --> 00:49:41,680
anybody to know about it

1339
00:49:46,470 --> 00:49:43,599
you realize something is going on and

1340
00:49:47,510 --> 00:49:46,480
with some of these cases for example

1341
00:49:49,910 --> 00:49:47,520
um

1342
00:49:51,670 --> 00:49:49,920
the one case up in cambria county years

1343
00:49:53,589 --> 00:49:51,680
ago these two guys are coming down the

1344
00:49:55,030 --> 00:49:53,599
road late at night here's this huge

1345
00:49:56,390 --> 00:49:55,040
bigfoot standing right in the middle of

1346
00:49:58,710 --> 00:49:56,400
the road they got a great look at this

1347
00:50:00,150 --> 00:49:58,720
thing it took off across the road went

1348
00:50:01,670 --> 00:50:00,160
up the embankment

1349
00:50:04,309 --> 00:50:01,680
and you know i remember one witness

1350
00:50:07,670 --> 00:50:04,319
saying to me said it was so unusual look

1351
00:50:10,710 --> 00:50:07,680
at this huge creature the top part of

1352
00:50:13,109 --> 00:50:10,720
the body was completely normal but the

1353
00:50:14,950 --> 00:50:13,119
lower part of the body was out of focus

1354
00:50:16,630 --> 00:50:14,960
he said it was just not clear well

1355
00:50:18,069 --> 00:50:16,640
that's bizarre i've never heard that

1356
00:50:19,670 --> 00:50:18,079
description

1357
00:50:23,430 --> 00:50:19,680
yeah sometimes you know like a mist

1358
00:50:26,309 --> 00:50:23,440
around it um and in some cases we've had

1359
00:50:28,150 --> 00:50:26,319
there wasn't a complete body i mean the

1360
00:50:29,910 --> 00:50:28,160
cases we had up around germanville back

1361
00:50:32,549 --> 00:50:29,920
in 73 where people were seeing these

1362
00:50:34,710 --> 00:50:32,559
things by the big uh stones up there and

1363
00:50:36,630 --> 00:50:34,720
there was only certain parts of the body

1364
00:50:38,309 --> 00:50:36,640
that they were able to see at times it

1365
00:50:40,870 --> 00:50:38,319
and sometimes you have reports of these

1366
00:50:43,270 --> 00:50:40,880
things are on one side of a witness and

1367
00:50:45,430 --> 00:50:43,280
almost instantaneously it disappears and

1368
00:50:47,829 --> 00:50:45,440
appears on the other side of them

1369
00:50:49,829 --> 00:50:47,839
and but some cases suggest that there's

1370
00:50:51,430 --> 00:50:49,839
something physical there because

1371
00:50:53,190 --> 00:50:51,440
sometimes we have physical evidence at

1372
00:50:55,270 --> 00:50:53,200
the scene

1373
00:50:56,710 --> 00:50:55,280
footprints or other evidence that

1374
00:50:59,030 --> 00:50:56,720
suggests that these things are

1375
00:51:00,470 --> 00:50:59,040
physically solid at times but other

1376
00:51:02,470 --> 00:51:00,480
times they're not

1377
00:51:03,750 --> 00:51:02,480
and when you hear these cases of people

1378
00:51:05,670 --> 00:51:03,760
shooting at them

1379
00:51:06,950 --> 00:51:05,680
and they disappear not sometimes in a

1380
00:51:08,390 --> 00:51:06,960
flash of light and i know there are

1381
00:51:10,069 --> 00:51:08,400
other cases around the country where

1382
00:51:11,829 --> 00:51:10,079
this has happened

1383
00:51:13,829 --> 00:51:11,839
or i remember one case where a fellow

1384
00:51:15,990 --> 00:51:13,839
saw one on his property

1385
00:51:17,510 --> 00:51:16,000
and shot at the thing and right in front

1386
00:51:19,589 --> 00:51:17,520
of him it disappeared he could hear it

1387
00:51:21,510 --> 00:51:19,599
continue to run

1388
00:51:23,430 --> 00:51:21,520
but he couldn't see it

1389
00:51:26,390 --> 00:51:23,440
and i mean this is just weird weird

1390
00:51:28,309 --> 00:51:26,400
things are going on out there

1391
00:51:30,549 --> 00:51:28,319
we've got so much more to come and chris

1392
00:51:33,030 --> 00:51:30,559
has some responses to the reports from

1393
00:51:35,670 --> 00:51:33,040
stan in our next segment

1394
00:51:38,430 --> 00:51:35,680
stan gordon gene steinberg chris o'brien

1395
00:51:49,270 --> 00:51:38,440
you're in the bearcast

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1445
00:54:13,670 --> 00:54:09,990
welcome back to the paracast the gold

1446
00:54:14,950 --> 00:54:13,680
standard of paranormal radio

1447
00:54:22,069 --> 00:54:14,960
and now

1448
00:54:26,230 --> 00:54:24,309
let's continue with a fascinating

1449
00:54:29,670 --> 00:54:26,240
excursion into world

1450
00:54:32,230 --> 00:54:29,680
of unknown events here chris

1451
00:54:34,710 --> 00:54:32,240
yeah i'm i'm struck by uh some of the

1452
00:54:37,430 --> 00:54:34,720
descriptions or you could almost

1453
00:54:38,549 --> 00:54:37,440
substitute the word bigfoot for ufo and

1454
00:54:41,030 --> 00:54:38,559
you'd have

1455
00:54:42,630 --> 00:54:41,040
exact descriptions that i've had

1456
00:54:45,510 --> 00:54:42,640
off and on over the years of people

1457
00:54:48,069 --> 00:54:45,520
reporting ufo objects that they shine a

1458
00:54:49,990 --> 00:54:48,079
light at it in one case i had a rancher

1459
00:54:52,230 --> 00:54:50,000
actually fire a rifle the thing

1460
00:54:53,589 --> 00:54:52,240
disappeared in a flash of light this is

1461
00:54:55,670 --> 00:54:53,599
very

1462
00:54:58,309 --> 00:54:55,680
interesting we've seen not only are we

1463
00:55:00,230 --> 00:54:58,319
seeing correlations between actual

1464
00:55:02,309 --> 00:55:00,240
physical manifestations being seen in

1465
00:55:05,190 --> 00:55:02,319
close proximity to one another but we're

1466
00:55:06,390 --> 00:55:05,200
also seeing similar descriptions of what

1467
00:55:09,190 --> 00:55:06,400
happens when

1468
00:55:11,349 --> 00:55:09,200
animals are actually fired at your

1469
00:55:13,109 --> 00:55:11,359
description of the lower half of the

1470
00:55:15,109 --> 00:55:13,119
animal being out of focus i've never

1471
00:55:17,829 --> 00:55:15,119
heard that one before that's that's one

1472
00:55:19,670 --> 00:55:17,839
for the books i i that's amazing

1473
00:55:21,589 --> 00:55:19,680
well actually right now you know i do a

1474
00:55:23,589 --> 00:55:21,599
lot of lectures around the country and

1475
00:55:25,750 --> 00:55:23,599
i'm working on a new one right now which

1476
00:55:28,230 --> 00:55:25,760
is covered the strange aspect of the

1477
00:55:29,750 --> 00:55:28,240
elusive bigfoot and it gets into a lot

1478
00:55:31,910 --> 00:55:29,760
of things that people just never heard

1479
00:55:33,750 --> 00:55:31,920
about before or again are reluctant to

1480
00:55:36,549 --> 00:55:33,760
even talk about it and you know there's

1481
00:55:38,790 --> 00:55:36,559
cases for example balls of light that

1482
00:55:40,470 --> 00:55:38,800
form into various cryptids and what

1483
00:55:41,990 --> 00:55:40,480
we're hearing in more recent years from

1484
00:55:44,150 --> 00:55:42,000
a lot of people in the bigfoot field

1485
00:55:45,829 --> 00:55:44,160
from pennsylvania and other parts of the

1486
00:55:46,549 --> 00:55:45,839
country and i'm hearing this more and

1487
00:55:48,710 --> 00:55:46,559
more

1488
00:55:50,789 --> 00:55:48,720
that bigfoot researchers are going out

1489
00:55:53,030 --> 00:55:50,799
investigating in areas where there's a

1490
00:55:55,109 --> 00:55:53,040
history of bigfoot activity

1491
00:55:57,589 --> 00:55:55,119
and instead of seeing bigfoot or finding

1492
00:55:59,349 --> 00:55:57,599
evidence they're seeing these balls of

1493
00:56:01,910 --> 00:55:59,359
light that are low to the ground

1494
00:56:03,829 --> 00:56:01,920
sometimes approach close by they fled

1495
00:56:05,829 --> 00:56:03,839
around in the trees and we're hearing

1496
00:56:07,750 --> 00:56:05,839
that more and more and a good example of

1497
00:56:10,390 --> 00:56:07,760
this was last year one of one of the

1498
00:56:12,150 --> 00:56:10,400
significant bigfoot sightings was blue

1499
00:56:14,230 --> 00:56:12,160
was may the 10th

1500
00:56:16,230 --> 00:56:14,240
up in fayette county again

1501
00:56:18,549 --> 00:56:16,240
and that was outside of fair chance

1502
00:56:20,069 --> 00:56:18,559
pennsylvania and there was a very good

1503
00:56:21,990 --> 00:56:20,079
sight it was investigated by one of my

1504
00:56:24,150 --> 00:56:22,000
associate researchers jim brown and

1505
00:56:26,069 --> 00:56:24,160
there were two men driving down

1506
00:56:27,670 --> 00:56:26,079
rural road where there's been a lot of

1507
00:56:30,230 --> 00:56:27,680
history of bigfoot sightings for years

1508
00:56:33,750 --> 00:56:30,240
and years it was a very foggy night with

1509
00:56:36,069 --> 00:56:33,760
a very very heavy pouring down rain and

1510
00:56:38,150 --> 00:56:36,079
as they're riding down the road suddenly

1511
00:56:40,549 --> 00:56:38,160
the seven foot tall hair covered

1512
00:56:42,950 --> 00:56:40,559
creature comes down from the left bank

1513
00:56:45,270 --> 00:56:42,960
and comes right down and stops right in

1514
00:56:47,109 --> 00:56:45,280
the path of the car about 20 feet away

1515
00:56:48,710 --> 00:56:47,119
the guys in the car looking this thing

1516
00:56:50,549 --> 00:56:48,720
is looking at them

1517
00:56:52,549 --> 00:56:50,559
they described and this has been pretty

1518
00:56:54,710 --> 00:56:52,559
prominent in more recent reports they

1519
00:56:55,670 --> 00:56:54,720
talked about the glowing luminous red

1520
00:56:57,829 --> 00:56:55,680
eyes

1521
00:57:00,309 --> 00:56:57,839
as they're staring at this thing they

1522
00:57:01,670 --> 00:57:00,319
slowly the driver slowly moves the car

1523
00:57:04,549 --> 00:57:01,680
forward

1524
00:57:07,190 --> 00:57:04,559
and both men feel as the car makes

1525
00:57:10,390 --> 00:57:07,200
slight contact with the creature and at

1526
00:57:12,230 --> 00:57:10,400
that point the creature places its hands

1527
00:57:13,829 --> 00:57:12,240
on the front of the car and the bumpers

1528
00:57:15,990 --> 00:57:13,839
against his legs

1529
00:57:18,309 --> 00:57:16,000
and it suddenly removes his hands and

1530
00:57:19,670 --> 00:57:18,319
slowly turns around and walks across the

1531
00:57:21,990 --> 00:57:19,680
road and walks down the road and it's

1532
00:57:23,510 --> 00:57:22,000
gone so within the week some of the

1533
00:57:24,950 --> 00:57:23,520
local bigfoot researchers who

1534
00:57:27,030 --> 00:57:24,960
investigate a lot of sightings around

1535
00:57:29,349 --> 00:57:27,040
her over the years they went up there to

1536
00:57:31,829 --> 00:57:29,359
look around for evidence of bigfoot but

1537
00:57:33,589 --> 00:57:31,839
instead they see these very strange

1538
00:57:35,510 --> 00:57:33,599
globes of light moving around they

1539
00:57:37,670 --> 00:57:35,520
couldn't explain i interviewed several

1540
00:57:40,069 --> 00:57:37,680
of them and it's something we're here

1541
00:57:42,069 --> 00:57:40,079
about more and more across the country

1542
00:57:44,150 --> 00:57:42,079
well that's an interesting point here

1543
00:57:45,910 --> 00:57:44,160
the fact that chris ran to a lot of

1544
00:57:48,309 --> 00:57:45,920
unusual things going on in the

1545
00:57:50,390 --> 00:57:48,319
mysterious valley you have a lot of

1546
00:57:52,309 --> 00:57:50,400
unusual things going on in parts of

1547
00:57:54,390 --> 00:57:52,319
pennsylvania what other parts of the

1548
00:57:55,510 --> 00:57:54,400
country can we look to for similar

1549
00:57:57,670 --> 00:57:55,520
events

1550
00:57:59,670 --> 00:57:57,680
well i've heard reports from many others

1551
00:58:01,670 --> 00:57:59,680
from from adjacent areas here from west

1552
00:58:03,589 --> 00:58:01,680
virginia ohio

1553
00:58:05,990 --> 00:58:03,599
i can tell you historically

1554
00:58:09,030 --> 00:58:06,000
going back many years from illinois from

1555
00:58:11,910 --> 00:58:09,040
ohio from tennessee just top of my head

1556
00:58:13,910 --> 00:58:11,920
from uh i think was new mexico from

1557
00:58:16,390 --> 00:58:13,920
illinois and then on and on and on i'm

1558
00:58:17,910 --> 00:58:16,400
sure chris has heard this too and i know

1559
00:58:20,150 --> 00:58:17,920
that there are other researchers out

1560
00:58:22,150 --> 00:58:20,160
there on nick redfern has written about

1561
00:58:23,910 --> 00:58:22,160
this linda molten howe there have been

1562
00:58:26,069 --> 00:58:23,920
numerous other people who have written

1563
00:58:27,349 --> 00:58:26,079
about it but i know that there is many

1564
00:58:29,430 --> 00:58:27,359
other researchers out there that know

1565
00:58:31,030 --> 00:58:29,440
about it who have not published this

1566
00:58:31,990 --> 00:58:31,040
because they're reluctant to talk about

1567
00:58:33,829 --> 00:58:32,000
it

1568
00:58:36,710 --> 00:58:33,839
well that is i guess the biggest

1569
00:58:39,589 --> 00:58:36,720
impediment here is it because when we go

1570
00:58:42,150 --> 00:58:39,599
back to those certain ufo organizations

1571
00:58:45,910 --> 00:58:42,160
they've conveyed the feeling that

1572
00:58:47,510 --> 00:58:45,920
ufos represent a singular phenomenon

1573
00:58:51,109 --> 00:58:47,520
therefore when we get into the other

1574
00:58:53,109 --> 00:58:51,119
stuff we're just too crazy well anybody

1575
00:58:54,710 --> 00:58:53,119
that's a researcher that keeps an

1576
00:58:57,349 --> 00:58:54,720
open-minded

1577
00:59:00,309 --> 00:58:57,359
attitude towards the phenomena once

1578
00:59:02,710 --> 00:59:00,319
again i'm skeptical but open-minded and

1579
00:59:04,150 --> 00:59:02,720
my position regardless of what kind of

1580
00:59:07,030 --> 00:59:04,160
case we deal with from the time i

1581
00:59:09,750 --> 00:59:07,040
started out in the field 1965 i get many

1582
00:59:12,309 --> 00:59:09,760
reports in many incidents sound very

1583
00:59:14,390 --> 00:59:12,319
strange unusual initially when you take

1584
00:59:16,390 --> 00:59:14,400
the time to track them down many are

1585
00:59:18,430 --> 00:59:16,400
determined a natural or manmade origin

1586
00:59:21,750 --> 00:59:18,440
so as we all know there are many

1587
00:59:24,150 --> 00:59:21,760
misidentifications especially with ufos

1588
00:59:26,150 --> 00:59:24,160
with bigfoot over the years something we

1589
00:59:28,870 --> 00:59:26,160
found out were nothing more than bear or

1590
00:59:31,349 --> 00:59:28,880
very large shaggy dogs or even hunters

1591
00:59:33,510 --> 00:59:31,359
and camouflage suits so there's a lot of

1592
00:59:35,190 --> 00:59:33,520
things you can determine but so many of

1593
00:59:38,630 --> 00:59:35,200
the bigfoot sightings we've had around

1594
00:59:39,990 --> 00:59:38,640
here over the years they haven't been

1595
00:59:41,990 --> 00:59:40,000
like something you might see on some of

1596
00:59:43,750 --> 00:59:42,000
the tv shows with a shadow in the dark a

1597
00:59:46,470 --> 00:59:43,760
half a mile away i mean many of these

1598
00:59:48,230 --> 00:59:46,480
were in daylight they were at extremely

1599
00:59:50,150 --> 00:59:48,240
close range and when i say extremely

1600
00:59:51,349 --> 00:59:50,160
close to the thing five to ten feet away

1601
00:59:52,789 --> 00:59:51,359
from witnesses

1602
00:59:55,030 --> 00:59:52,799
that's where they walked out in front of

1603
00:59:56,950 --> 00:59:55,040
vehicles or near mobile homes or people

1604
00:59:59,030 --> 00:59:56,960
looked out their windows that were

1605
01:00:01,030 --> 00:59:59,040
living in in the country settings they

1606
01:00:02,390 --> 01:00:01,040
got very close look at these things and

1607
01:00:04,309 --> 01:00:02,400
sometimes there was more than one

1608
01:00:05,589 --> 01:00:04,319
creature there was times when there were

1609
01:00:07,750 --> 01:00:05,599
two or three of them seen together at

1610
01:00:09,910 --> 01:00:07,760
the same time in place and you know

1611
01:00:11,910 --> 01:00:09,920
police officers have seen them hunters

1612
01:00:13,510 --> 01:00:11,920
have seen them other people are very

1613
01:00:14,950 --> 01:00:13,520
responsible seeing them they know what

1614
01:00:17,670 --> 01:00:14,960
they're seeing they know these are not

1615
01:00:19,670 --> 01:00:17,680
there i mean the the physical traits are

1616
01:00:21,190 --> 01:00:19,680
completely different i mean bears don't

1617
01:00:24,309 --> 01:00:21,200
have arms that hang down almost to the

1618
01:00:27,030 --> 01:00:24,319
ground and swinging in their arms and

1619
01:00:28,950 --> 01:00:27,040
there is this is a much more complex

1620
01:00:30,150 --> 01:00:28,960
phenomena than many people want to deal

1621
01:00:32,069 --> 01:00:30,160
with

1622
01:00:34,710 --> 01:00:32,079
boy that's an understatement i love the

1623
01:00:36,950 --> 01:00:34,720
case from a silent invasion of the the

1624
01:00:38,870 --> 01:00:36,960
folks in the car and what was it a dog

1625
01:00:40,789 --> 01:00:38,880
man or something or a wolf man that ran

1626
01:00:42,309 --> 01:00:40,799
after behind them and grabbed a hold of

1627
01:00:44,150 --> 01:00:42,319
the back of the car and left these huge

1628
01:00:46,710 --> 01:00:44,160
scratches down the trunk of the car what

1629
01:00:48,950 --> 01:00:46,720
a great case that was completely tons of

1630
01:00:50,870 --> 01:00:48,960
physical evidence that was my first book

1631
01:00:52,789 --> 01:00:50,880
that was really mysterious pennsylvania

1632
01:00:55,030 --> 01:00:52,799
okay real okay sorry yeah i i got this

1633
01:00:56,870 --> 01:00:55,040
okay go out there yeah that was a great

1634
01:00:59,349 --> 01:00:56,880
case oh what a case

1635
01:01:01,190 --> 01:00:59,359
and that was the case where these fellas

1636
01:01:03,829 --> 01:01:01,200
were were actually antagonizing this

1637
01:01:05,829 --> 01:01:03,839
thing with this high beams uh light

1638
01:01:08,470 --> 01:01:05,839
because they had been it was this

1639
01:01:10,230 --> 01:01:08,480
occurred in derry township again

1640
01:01:12,470 --> 01:01:10,240
it's one of the hottest areas in the

1641
01:01:14,549 --> 01:01:12,480
country along the chestnut ridge in

1642
01:01:16,230 --> 01:01:14,559
westmoreland county where year after

1643
01:01:17,510 --> 01:01:16,240
year including last year i've had

1644
01:01:19,910 --> 01:01:17,520
reports this year already of some

1645
01:01:21,270 --> 01:01:19,920
activity of all kind of weird stuff

1646
01:01:24,710 --> 01:01:21,280
especially with bigfoot sightings and

1647
01:01:27,270 --> 01:01:24,720
ufos and in that particular case um

1648
01:01:29,510 --> 01:01:27,280
there were three fellows involved

1649
01:01:30,710 --> 01:01:29,520
two of them were directly involved in

1650
01:01:31,829 --> 01:01:30,720
the incident

1651
01:01:33,349 --> 01:01:31,839
um

1652
01:01:35,829 --> 01:01:33,359
they worked late at night they were

1653
01:01:38,150 --> 01:01:35,839
coming down a dark road it's a long

1654
01:01:40,230 --> 01:01:38,160
story as i recall but anyhow they lost

1655
01:01:43,349 --> 01:01:40,240
an expensive hubcap off their truck and

1656
01:01:44,710 --> 01:01:43,359
it rolled into an air was a bunch of old

1657
01:01:46,390 --> 01:01:44,720
car bodies

1658
01:01:48,390 --> 01:01:46,400
and they got out of the vehicle they had

1659
01:01:49,510 --> 01:01:48,400
walkie-talkies they got out of the

1660
01:01:51,910 --> 01:01:49,520
vehicle

1661
01:01:54,309 --> 01:01:51,920
and they're looking around and as i

1662
01:01:55,990 --> 01:01:54,319
recall they have like a growl and they

1663
01:01:58,309 --> 01:01:56,000
turn around and here's this nine foot

1664
01:01:59,270 --> 01:01:58,319
tall creature that stands up in the

1665
01:02:01,270 --> 01:01:59,280
corner

1666
01:02:03,270 --> 01:02:01,280
uh with white hair you know we tell you

1667
01:02:05,349 --> 01:02:03,280
enough about the white toes but we do

1668
01:02:07,349 --> 01:02:05,359
get reports of these large creatures

1669
01:02:09,109 --> 01:02:07,359
with white hair on occasion and this

1670
01:02:09,910 --> 01:02:09,119
thing stood straight up

1671
01:02:12,230 --> 01:02:09,920
and

1672
01:02:13,589 --> 01:02:12,240
the one guy was just he was very upset

1673
01:02:16,470 --> 01:02:13,599
he ran immediately the other guy stood

1674
01:02:17,990 --> 01:02:16,480
there for i think about 20 seconds or so

1675
01:02:19,190 --> 01:02:18,000
just to get a good look at this thing he

1676
01:02:21,030 --> 01:02:19,200
couldn't he couldn't believe what he was

1677
01:02:22,630 --> 01:02:21,040
seeing and they ran back to the truck

1678
01:02:24,789 --> 01:02:22,640
and they got out of there

1679
01:02:27,589 --> 01:02:24,799
and anyhow the odd part of the story was

1680
01:02:28,470 --> 01:02:27,599
this is a very desolate area country

1681
01:02:30,309 --> 01:02:28,480
area

1682
01:02:31,990 --> 01:02:30,319
three o'clock and this is this occurred

1683
01:02:34,230 --> 01:02:32,000
i believe around um i think it was

1684
01:02:36,950 --> 01:02:34,240
around three o'clock in the morning and

1685
01:02:38,309 --> 01:02:36,960
um as they're pulling down the road all

1686
01:02:41,829 --> 01:02:38,319
of a sudden

1687
01:02:43,109 --> 01:02:41,839
this uh very fancy chevy dooley passes

1688
01:02:46,230 --> 01:02:43,119
them

1689
01:02:48,549 --> 01:02:46,240
and um these guys watch as these things

1690
01:02:50,230 --> 01:02:48,559
turns around and these guys are moving

1691
01:02:52,309 --> 01:02:50,240
fast down the road and this guy these

1692
01:02:54,630 --> 01:02:52,319
guys in the chevy dooley days come

1693
01:02:56,150 --> 01:02:54,640
speeding down the road trying to

1694
01:02:58,630 --> 01:02:56,160
apparently try to catch up with those

1695
01:03:00,470 --> 01:02:58,640
witnesses and they said it looked like

1696
01:03:02,789 --> 01:03:00,480
it came right up to the rear of their

1697
01:03:04,870 --> 01:03:02,799
license plate turned the headlights out

1698
01:03:07,030 --> 01:03:04,880
and backed off the side road

1699
01:03:09,589 --> 01:03:07,040
so anyhow that was another interesting

1700
01:03:11,510 --> 01:03:09,599
little part of the story anyhow the one

1701
01:03:13,349 --> 01:03:11,520
fella involved he was visiting a friend

1702
01:03:14,710 --> 01:03:13,359
nearby one of the guys was with him he

1703
01:03:16,549 --> 01:03:14,720
had his own car

1704
01:03:18,630 --> 01:03:16,559
when he was out there he had dropped i

1705
01:03:20,549 --> 01:03:18,640
think with some some

1706
01:03:21,670 --> 01:03:20,559
keys and a knife or something something

1707
01:03:23,589 --> 01:03:21,680
important

1708
01:03:25,510 --> 01:03:23,599
he wanted to go back

1709
01:03:28,230 --> 01:03:25,520
to the scene i think they went back one

1710
01:03:30,549 --> 01:03:28,240
time a second time they went by

1711
01:03:33,430 --> 01:03:30,559
and they saw the thing again

1712
01:03:35,029 --> 01:03:33,440
and they antagonized it with this high

1713
01:03:37,510 --> 01:03:35,039
beam light as it came around the car

1714
01:03:39,829 --> 01:03:37,520
bodies and this thing actually chased

1715
01:03:41,670 --> 01:03:39,839
them down the road for a short distance

1716
01:03:42,829 --> 01:03:41,680
keeping up with their speed and then it

1717
01:03:44,549 --> 01:03:42,839
just

1718
01:03:46,950 --> 01:03:44,559
stopped we gotta bring our break here

1719
01:03:48,470 --> 01:03:46,960
and continue with this fascinating case

1720
01:03:50,710 --> 01:03:48,480
with stan gordon

1721
01:03:58,150 --> 01:03:50,720
gene and chris you're in the barrack

1722
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1723
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by critics and readers alike it's a

1724
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1725
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forget

1726
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a former u.s military intelligence

1727
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officer is haunted by intense dreams

1728
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about a beautiful woman pleading for his

1729
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help after a terrible battle in outer

1730
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space

1731
01:04:19,589 --> 01:04:17,599
but the dreams turn out to be true and

1732
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thrust him into a telepathic love affair

1733
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with a woman whose far away planet is

1734
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intent on destroying the earth

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1740
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fanatical enemies that threaten the

1741
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lives of freedom-loving beings

1742
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1753
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1755
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1779
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six seconds is how long it takes for an

1780
01:06:13,510 --> 01:06:11,760
18 wheeler traveling at a safe speed to

1781
01:06:15,670 --> 01:06:13,520
come to a complete stop

1782
01:06:17,829 --> 01:06:15,680
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1783
01:06:20,549 --> 01:06:17,839
travel the length of two football fields

1784
01:06:23,029 --> 01:06:20,559
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1785
01:06:25,829 --> 01:06:23,039
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1786
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find that hard to believe and you spend

1790
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precious time looking for someone to say

1791
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1792
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1793
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1794
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on disability today take one bottle of

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1798
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1799
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1801
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1820
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1821
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1824
01:08:31,030 --> 01:08:29,120
stan gordon go ahead please so anyhow

1825
01:08:32,789 --> 01:08:31,040
these these fellas having these

1826
01:08:34,870 --> 01:08:32,799
experiences during the evening the third

1827
01:08:36,550 --> 01:08:34,880
encounter the one fella

1828
01:08:38,709 --> 01:08:36,560
he had gone to his friend's house to

1829
01:08:41,669 --> 01:08:38,719
pick up his car he was the one that

1830
01:08:43,110 --> 01:08:41,679
dropped the keys and the knife he was

1831
01:08:45,590 --> 01:08:43,120
going to make one more attempt to try to

1832
01:08:48,950 --> 01:08:45,600
recover those items from that scene

1833
01:08:50,550 --> 01:08:48,960
his car was a a souped up really nice to

1834
01:08:52,550 --> 01:08:50,560
put a lot of money into like a racing

1835
01:08:55,510 --> 01:08:52,560
engine in it put a lot of money into

1836
01:08:57,510 --> 01:08:55,520
this car he went back to the scene

1837
01:08:59,110 --> 01:08:57,520
i remember him he just opened the door

1838
01:09:01,430 --> 01:08:59,120
and reached down and i'm not sure with

1839
01:09:03,189 --> 01:09:01,440
his keys of the knife and he grabbed it

1840
01:09:05,749 --> 01:09:03,199
and momentarily

1841
01:09:08,709 --> 01:09:05,759
all of a sudden he felt his weight on

1842
01:09:11,590 --> 01:09:08,719
the car like on the back of the car

1843
01:09:12,950 --> 01:09:11,600
and he's hitting the hitting the um gas

1844
01:09:14,550 --> 01:09:12,960
pedal trying to get out of there and the

1845
01:09:17,030 --> 01:09:14,560
car's not moving

1846
01:09:18,470 --> 01:09:17,040
his attacks really going up he said the

1847
01:09:20,789 --> 01:09:18,480
actually the sound of the pipes were

1848
01:09:22,870 --> 01:09:20,799
whistling it was so loud and he looked

1849
01:09:24,870 --> 01:09:22,880
up and here on the trunk of the car

1850
01:09:26,789 --> 01:09:24,880
here's this white hairy creature which

1851
01:09:29,430 --> 01:09:26,799
is about nine feet tall with glowing red

1852
01:09:31,590 --> 01:09:29,440
eyes staring at him

1853
01:09:33,990 --> 01:09:31,600
through the back window looking at him

1854
01:09:35,430 --> 01:09:34,000
and he's hitting the gas hitting the gas

1855
01:09:37,269 --> 01:09:35,440
and finally he said he thinks what

1856
01:09:38,870 --> 01:09:37,279
happened was the sound was so loud from

1857
01:09:41,030 --> 01:09:38,880
the pipes that the thing actually

1858
01:09:44,470 --> 01:09:41,040
released the car and he was able to get

1859
01:09:46,789 --> 01:09:44,480
on the road and he went down the road

1860
01:09:48,309 --> 01:09:46,799
and and he has he goes down the road he

1861
01:09:49,990 --> 01:09:48,319
goes to a little 24-hour convenience

1862
01:09:52,229 --> 01:09:50,000
store to get his composure back and he

1863
01:09:54,070 --> 01:09:52,239
watched his car the whole time and he

1864
01:09:55,750 --> 01:09:54,080
said while he's looking out the window

1865
01:09:57,590 --> 01:09:55,760
some young kids pull up and they're kind

1866
01:09:59,990 --> 01:09:57,600
of looking at his car kind of admiring

1867
01:10:02,310 --> 01:10:00,000
it and he walks outside

1868
01:10:04,550 --> 01:10:02,320
and one of the guys says something like

1869
01:10:06,310 --> 01:10:04,560
nike's car but what happened did you get

1870
01:10:08,149 --> 01:10:06,320
attacked by a bear

1871
01:10:09,669 --> 01:10:08,159
and he said what are you talking about

1872
01:10:11,669 --> 01:10:09,679
and he went around looked at the back of

1873
01:10:13,510 --> 01:10:11,679
the car and they're on the trunk are

1874
01:10:16,470 --> 01:10:13,520
these huge

1875
01:10:18,229 --> 01:10:16,480
areas of large claw marks cut deep into

1876
01:10:19,910 --> 01:10:18,239
the metal of the car

1877
01:10:21,270 --> 01:10:19,920
all right that's very important there

1878
01:10:23,350 --> 01:10:21,280
pointing out that this is not a

1879
01:10:25,270 --> 01:10:23,360
projection in this case it was a

1880
01:10:26,550 --> 01:10:25,280
physical encounter i'm glad you

1881
01:10:28,470 --> 01:10:26,560
mentioned that yeah

1882
01:10:30,550 --> 01:10:28,480
he was very very shook up didn't know

1883
01:10:32,390 --> 01:10:30,560
what happened then yeah he went home

1884
01:10:34,229 --> 01:10:32,400
they called me early morning it must

1885
01:10:35,350 --> 01:10:34,239
have been around four o'clock in the

1886
01:10:36,630 --> 01:10:35,360
morning somewhere around there i can't

1887
01:10:37,990 --> 01:10:36,640
remember exactly i know it was early

1888
01:10:40,070 --> 01:10:38,000
morning i wrote the whole thing up my

1889
01:10:41,189 --> 01:10:40,080
really mysterious pennsylvania book and

1890
01:10:44,070 --> 01:10:41,199
anyhow

1891
01:10:46,630 --> 01:10:44,080
to make the story even more interesting

1892
01:10:48,550 --> 01:10:46,640
i was going to make arrangements to uh

1893
01:10:49,590 --> 01:10:48,560
go out early the next day to go out and

1894
01:10:50,950 --> 01:10:49,600
interview the people and take

1895
01:10:52,470 --> 01:10:50,960
photographs and measurements or whatever

1896
01:10:55,030 --> 01:10:52,480
which i did

1897
01:10:57,990 --> 01:10:55,040
and found that one of the witnesses

1898
01:11:00,950 --> 01:10:58,000
initially i talked to was a little upset

1899
01:11:02,790 --> 01:11:00,960
afraid to get involved but anyhow he had

1900
01:11:05,189 --> 01:11:02,800
told me after i had talked to him on the

1901
01:11:06,550 --> 01:11:05,199
phone a short time later the phone rings

1902
01:11:07,430 --> 01:11:06,560
in his house

1903
01:11:09,189 --> 01:11:07,440
and

1904
01:11:11,430 --> 01:11:09,199
there's a message from

1905
01:11:13,510 --> 01:11:11,440
what was alleged to be a federal agency

1906
01:11:15,270 --> 01:11:13,520
someone from the federal agency and they

1907
01:11:17,430 --> 01:11:15,280
basically told him forget about what you

1908
01:11:19,590 --> 01:11:17,440
saw and i strongly suggest you talk to

1909
01:11:21,590 --> 01:11:19,600
steven gordon about it

1910
01:11:23,669 --> 01:11:21,600
which was kind of interesting they blame

1911
01:11:26,229 --> 01:11:23,679
you men in black phone call that are

1912
01:11:27,669 --> 01:11:26,239
touting you i love it

1913
01:11:29,430 --> 01:11:27,679
you're responsible stan you're

1914
01:11:30,790 --> 01:11:29,440
responsible for the men in black that's

1915
01:11:33,430 --> 01:11:30,800
it

1916
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so the question is how did anybody know

1917
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about the incident one either they

1918
01:11:38,470 --> 01:11:37,520
traced that license plate whoever they

1919
01:11:40,470 --> 01:11:38,480
were

1920
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to that person who was driving who i was

1921
01:11:42,870 --> 01:11:41,600
talking to

1922
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or

1923
01:11:45,910 --> 01:11:44,719
somebody was listening on my phone lines

1924
01:11:47,830 --> 01:11:45,920
how else would they have known about

1925
01:11:49,590 --> 01:11:47,840
that incident

1926
01:11:51,590 --> 01:11:49,600
so it's kind of interesting and we had

1927
01:11:53,270 --> 01:11:51,600
no way to verify this government agency

1928
01:11:54,390 --> 01:11:53,280
was involved in it

1929
01:11:55,750 --> 01:11:54,400
i did

1930
01:11:58,709 --> 01:11:55,760
send them a letter i never received a

1931
01:12:00,630 --> 01:11:58,719
response but it's an interesting case

1932
01:12:02,310 --> 01:12:00,640
and over the years there were some other

1933
01:12:04,630 --> 01:12:02,320
incidents involving both ufos and

1934
01:12:07,030 --> 01:12:04,640
bigfoot would suggest the possibility

1935
01:12:08,630 --> 01:12:07,040
that there were some government agencies

1936
01:12:10,709 --> 01:12:08,640
possibly involved

1937
01:12:12,550 --> 01:12:10,719
in some of those cases as well

1938
01:12:14,229 --> 01:12:12,560
they can't tap your phone without a

1939
01:12:15,990 --> 01:12:14,239
court order

1940
01:12:17,510 --> 01:12:16,000
technically

1941
01:12:18,709 --> 01:12:17,520
yeah

1942
01:12:20,470 --> 01:12:18,719
so i don't know how that would have

1943
01:12:22,070 --> 01:12:20,480
happened but it's just so i don't know

1944
01:12:23,110 --> 01:12:22,080
who it was we just don't know how it

1945
01:12:25,990 --> 01:12:23,120
happened

1946
01:12:29,110 --> 01:12:26,000
it's all speculation

1947
01:12:32,149 --> 01:12:29,120
did you ever see anyone who you'd

1948
01:12:33,830 --> 01:12:32,159
interpret as a possible man or a woman

1949
01:12:34,830 --> 01:12:33,840
in black

1950
01:12:36,470 --> 01:12:34,840
no i have

1951
01:12:38,550 --> 01:12:36,480
not

1952
01:12:40,229 --> 01:12:38,560
well glad it's it's just amazing stan

1953
01:12:42,790 --> 01:12:40,239
that you've you've been

1954
01:12:45,189 --> 01:12:42,800
in and out of some of the most uh hot

1955
01:12:47,270 --> 01:12:45,199
bed areas in north america

1956
01:12:49,510 --> 01:12:47,280
for over 50 years and you've never had a

1957
01:12:52,470 --> 01:12:49,520
personal experience that to me is

1958
01:12:54,470 --> 01:12:52,480
it's almost unbelievable

1959
01:12:56,149 --> 01:12:54,480
oh that's true you know it's just uh

1960
01:12:57,110 --> 01:12:56,159
very very intriguing and interesting and

1961
01:12:58,950 --> 01:12:57,120
again

1962
01:13:00,149 --> 01:12:58,960
you know so much as a speculation we

1963
01:13:02,229 --> 01:13:00,159
just don't know for sure what we're

1964
01:13:04,790 --> 01:13:02,239
dealing with or who we're dealing with

1965
01:13:06,550 --> 01:13:04,800
and it just makes you wonder

1966
01:13:08,790 --> 01:13:06,560
well i'll say

1967
01:13:11,590 --> 01:13:08,800
well maybe again stan the problem is

1968
01:13:15,990 --> 01:13:11,600
here is you don't have the right genetic

1969
01:13:21,830 --> 01:13:19,510
who knows about that huh

1970
01:13:23,669 --> 01:13:21,840
absolutely chris

1971
01:13:26,229 --> 01:13:23,679
well i was just going to say that uh

1972
01:13:27,669 --> 01:13:26,239
according to daryl sims and

1973
01:13:30,149 --> 01:13:27,679
and i guess the

1974
01:13:33,110 --> 01:13:30,159
the tyler koch john

1975
01:13:35,510 --> 01:13:33,120
survey that um they've been doing

1976
01:13:36,709 --> 01:13:35,520
uh it appears to indicate that if you

1977
01:13:40,390 --> 01:13:36,719
have

1978
01:13:42,229 --> 01:13:40,400
sort of irish or scottish um

1979
01:13:44,310 --> 01:13:42,239
heritage and

1980
01:13:46,950 --> 01:13:44,320
combined with i think

1981
01:13:49,510 --> 01:13:46,960
um what was it um

1982
01:13:51,910 --> 01:13:49,520
i think cherokee if i remember correctly

1983
01:13:55,030 --> 01:13:51,920
that particular combination

1984
01:13:56,149 --> 01:13:55,040
uh tends to crop up uh statistically uh

1985
01:13:59,110 --> 01:13:56,159
more

1986
01:14:00,390 --> 01:13:59,120
uh in these survey uh respondents uh

1987
01:14:01,590 --> 01:14:00,400
responses

1988
01:14:03,270 --> 01:14:01,600
uh

1989
01:14:04,709 --> 01:14:03,280
which is very intriguing to me because i

1990
01:14:06,310 --> 01:14:04,719
remember hearing darryl sims mention

1991
01:14:07,669 --> 01:14:06,320
this years ago

1992
01:14:08,550 --> 01:14:07,679
and then have uh

1993
01:14:11,430 --> 01:14:08,560
you know

1994
01:14:13,590 --> 01:14:11,440
this dr tyler koch john and others who

1995
01:14:14,790 --> 01:14:13,600
have been doing this other survey

1996
01:14:16,149 --> 01:14:14,800
report

1997
01:14:17,750 --> 01:14:16,159
very similar

1998
01:14:19,350 --> 01:14:17,760
findings

1999
01:14:21,110 --> 01:14:19,360
uh that to me is very very interesting

2000
01:14:23,030 --> 01:14:21,120
so

2001
01:14:24,470 --> 01:14:23,040
maybe you need to uh

2002
01:14:28,229 --> 01:14:24,480
i don't know

2003
01:14:30,870 --> 01:14:28,239
somehow import some

2004
01:14:32,310 --> 01:14:30,880
some uh some celtic and uh

2005
01:14:35,430 --> 01:14:32,320
um

2006
01:14:37,430 --> 01:14:35,440
uh commit what is that i keep

2007
01:14:40,070 --> 01:14:37,440
i keep forgetting the uh the tribe

2008
01:14:41,669 --> 01:14:40,080
cherokee there we go

2009
01:14:43,830 --> 01:14:41,679
so anyway maybe you should get yourself

2010
01:14:45,830 --> 01:14:43,840
a temporary transfusion of cherokee and

2011
01:14:47,590 --> 01:14:45,840
celtic blood or something when you go

2012
01:14:50,229 --> 01:14:47,600
out on a

2013
01:14:51,910 --> 01:14:50,239
on your next case

2014
01:14:54,630 --> 01:14:51,920
maybe that'll help i'm just trying to

2015
01:14:58,630 --> 01:14:56,470
well i guess all we can do is what we

2016
01:15:00,070 --> 01:14:58,640
continue to do and try to follow up on

2017
01:15:01,350 --> 01:15:00,080
these cases and try to find some good

2018
01:15:03,669 --> 01:15:01,360
information as to what we might be

2019
01:15:05,430 --> 01:15:03,679
dealing with yeah

2020
01:15:07,110 --> 01:15:05,440
exactly well it's it's one area the

2021
01:15:08,390 --> 01:15:07,120
country that i'm absolutely intrigued

2022
01:15:11,669 --> 01:15:08,400
with

2023
01:15:14,709 --> 01:15:11,679
i think it's by far the most active area

2024
01:15:16,070 --> 01:15:14,719
on the east coast uh statistically

2025
01:15:17,990 --> 01:15:16,080
um are you

2026
01:15:19,590 --> 01:15:18,000
familiar with um

2027
01:15:21,990 --> 01:15:19,600
carol acosta's

2028
01:15:24,070 --> 01:15:22,000
work she just published a

2029
01:15:26,910 --> 01:15:24,080
an exhaustive listing of sightings in

2030
01:15:29,070 --> 01:15:26,920
the united states from i think

2031
01:15:32,550 --> 01:15:29,080
2002 through

2032
01:15:35,590 --> 01:15:32,560
2012 or something i'm not sure what that

2033
01:15:37,669 --> 01:15:35,600
it's it's in the 2000s um has she talked

2034
01:15:39,669 --> 01:15:37,679
to you or

2035
01:15:42,070 --> 01:15:39,679
dove into your database at all and

2036
01:15:43,830 --> 01:15:42,080
included any of your work

2037
01:15:45,350 --> 01:15:43,840
i've i'm not i've heard of mention i'm

2038
01:15:47,430 --> 01:15:45,360
not from more well i've had no contact

2039
01:15:48,950 --> 01:15:47,440
with her so i'd like to take a look at

2040
01:15:51,430 --> 01:15:48,960
it someday

2041
01:15:53,430 --> 01:15:51,440
yeah she never contacted me either so

2042
01:15:55,910 --> 01:15:53,440
i don't know how accurate this uh

2043
01:15:57,350 --> 01:15:55,920
particular compilation of reports is

2044
01:15:59,830 --> 01:15:57,360
going to be

2045
01:16:01,430 --> 01:15:59,840
why do they do that though they ignore

2046
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some of the key researches when they do

2047
01:16:05,350 --> 01:16:03,440
these things

2048
01:16:07,830 --> 01:16:05,360
i i don't know you know sometimes people

2049
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just don't know that you're there

2050
01:16:10,870 --> 01:16:09,840
i i've met cheryl i know she knows who i

2051
01:16:16,149 --> 01:16:10,880
am

2052
01:16:18,630 --> 01:16:16,159
mufon and nids and in other uh

2053
01:16:20,470 --> 01:16:18,640
databases over the years that especially

2054
01:16:21,510 --> 01:16:20,480
in the black triangle um

2055
01:16:23,830 --> 01:16:21,520
arena

2056
01:16:26,149 --> 01:16:23,840
in the san luis valley i had 12 really

2057
01:16:27,990 --> 01:16:26,159
good black triangle sightings half of

2058
01:16:29,669 --> 01:16:28,000
them reported by law enforcement and

2059
01:16:32,149 --> 01:16:29,679
they were never included in any of the

2060
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databases let's go with more of this in

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01:22:11,990 --> 01:22:10,560
six decades now

2195
01:22:14,070 --> 01:22:12,000
and he's not going to give up until it's

2196
01:22:16,870 --> 01:22:14,080
at least nine or ten because people live

2197
01:22:19,990 --> 01:22:16,880
longer now and he's been looking and

2198
01:22:21,990 --> 01:22:20,000
looking stan with all these reports

2199
01:22:24,629 --> 01:22:22,000
that we're talking about here you ever

2200
01:22:26,790 --> 01:22:24,639
feel frustrated my heavens

2201
01:22:29,430 --> 01:22:26,800
i'm at this thing for

2202
01:22:30,950 --> 01:22:29,440
80 90 percent of my life when is it

2203
01:22:32,470 --> 01:22:30,960
gonna end when am i going to have the

2204
01:22:35,350 --> 01:22:32,480
final answers

2205
01:22:37,189 --> 01:22:35,360
well i'm sure over the years um you get

2206
01:22:39,189 --> 01:22:37,199
really bogged down with lots of reports

2207
01:22:41,669 --> 01:22:39,199
you do a lot of work i mean i remember

2208
01:22:43,430 --> 01:22:41,679
years and years ago when we began to see

2209
01:22:44,950 --> 01:22:43,440
certain patterns and it looked like you

2210
01:22:46,070 --> 01:22:44,960
may were coming up with some answers and

2211
01:22:47,910 --> 01:22:46,080
something else will come up and

2212
01:22:50,629 --> 01:22:47,920
completely throw up your theory

2213
01:22:51,350 --> 01:22:50,639
so it it just makes me aware once again

2214
01:22:53,910 --> 01:22:51,360
that

2215
01:22:55,830 --> 01:22:53,920
this whole subject is much more involved

2216
01:22:58,310 --> 01:22:55,840
it's much more complicated and much

2217
01:23:00,149 --> 01:22:58,320
strange than many people realize oh

2218
01:23:02,149 --> 01:23:00,159
ain't that the truth

2219
01:23:04,790 --> 01:23:02,159
now amongst all these sightings you've

2220
01:23:07,189 --> 01:23:04,800
looked at in pennsylvania do you find

2221
01:23:09,510 --> 01:23:07,199
much evidence of people engaging in

2222
01:23:11,910 --> 01:23:09,520
fakery obviously they do that with

2223
01:23:14,070 --> 01:23:11,920
ufo photos and movies they stick them on

2224
01:23:16,870 --> 01:23:14,080
youtube but do you run across any of

2225
01:23:18,629 --> 01:23:16,880
that personally very rarely i mean very

2226
01:23:20,790 --> 01:23:18,639
well do you have any overt hoaxes

2227
01:23:22,870 --> 01:23:20,800
there's a lot of things people report

2228
01:23:25,830 --> 01:23:22,880
that turn out to be for example

2229
01:23:27,669 --> 01:23:25,840
chinese lanterns drones or other

2230
01:23:29,430 --> 01:23:27,679
events that we can track down so they're

2231
01:23:31,110 --> 01:23:29,440
not actually hoaxing it it's just

2232
01:23:33,510 --> 01:23:31,120
they're seeing something that has an

2233
01:23:36,149 --> 01:23:33,520
explanation it's very rare over the

2234
01:23:39,030 --> 01:23:36,159
years and and most of the time it's been

2235
01:23:41,510 --> 01:23:39,040
when for example in 73 when there was

2236
01:23:43,830 --> 01:23:41,520
all the ufo bigfoot activity was making

2237
01:23:46,149 --> 01:23:43,840
lots of news at the time when you have a

2238
01:23:47,510 --> 01:23:46,159
lot of publicity like that you expect

2239
01:23:49,669 --> 01:23:47,520
you're gonna start having some fake

2240
01:23:51,590 --> 01:23:49,679
footprints show up and there was ways

2241
01:23:53,910 --> 01:23:51,600
you could easily tell what was real what

2242
01:23:56,470 --> 01:23:53,920
was fabricated but it's something you

2243
01:23:58,070 --> 01:23:56,480
rarely really ever come up across i mean

2244
01:24:00,390 --> 01:23:58,080
when you interview people talk these

2245
01:24:02,470 --> 01:24:00,400
people get the details keep going over

2246
01:24:04,229 --> 01:24:02,480
the accounts what happened i mean you

2247
01:24:05,990 --> 01:24:04,239
can tell pretty much who's telling the

2248
01:24:08,310 --> 01:24:06,000
truth and who is not

2249
01:24:09,830 --> 01:24:08,320
so it's your internal lie detector that

2250
01:24:11,910 --> 01:24:09,840
works

2251
01:24:14,390 --> 01:24:11,920
yeah i mean after interviewing thousands

2252
01:24:16,950 --> 01:24:14,400
of people it's pretty easy to tell when

2253
01:24:20,790 --> 01:24:16,960
people are genuinely you know shaken by

2254
01:24:23,110 --> 01:24:20,800
an event or or genuinely um amazed or

2255
01:24:23,990 --> 01:24:23,120
frightened well it's impossible for

2256
01:24:25,750 --> 01:24:24,000
someone

2257
01:24:28,629 --> 01:24:25,760
to feign those things

2258
01:24:30,629 --> 01:24:28,639
to a seasoned field investigator and

2259
01:24:32,790 --> 01:24:30,639
actually uh get away with it unless

2260
01:24:34,390 --> 01:24:32,800
they're you know really good hollywood

2261
01:24:36,470 --> 01:24:34,400
quality actors

2262
01:24:38,950 --> 01:24:36,480
oh yeah there's those little details i

2263
01:24:40,470 --> 01:24:38,960
mean so many cases over the years and

2264
01:24:42,229 --> 01:24:40,480
especially some of the major cases i

2265
01:24:44,149 --> 01:24:42,239
worked on there was so many little

2266
01:24:46,149 --> 01:24:44,159
details that i kept quiet until i could

2267
01:24:48,070 --> 01:24:46,159
verify from other people

2268
01:24:50,229 --> 01:24:48,080
so many of these witnesses tell me these

2269
01:24:51,270 --> 01:24:50,239
small little details

2270
01:24:52,470 --> 01:24:51,280
that

2271
01:24:53,910 --> 01:24:52,480
unless you had the experience you

2272
01:24:55,189 --> 01:24:53,920
probably would not know about them that

2273
01:24:57,510 --> 01:24:55,199
sometimes are things that are not

2274
01:24:59,669 --> 01:24:57,520
something that are commonly discussed

2275
01:25:02,390 --> 01:24:59,679
right yeah you've got your little little

2276
01:25:04,709 --> 01:25:02,400
uh litmus test too i've got some little

2277
01:25:06,950 --> 01:25:04,719
little bits of um you know descriptions

2278
01:25:09,430 --> 01:25:06,960
mostly when people use a particular

2279
01:25:11,350 --> 01:25:09,440
worded description that instantly it

2280
01:25:12,390 --> 01:25:11,360
puts me on alert that this is a real a

2281
01:25:14,550 --> 01:25:12,400
real case

2282
01:25:16,709 --> 01:25:14,560
i i don't share what those

2283
01:25:18,950 --> 01:25:16,719
little buzz words are buzz phrases are

2284
01:25:21,350 --> 01:25:18,960
uh just to keep that as pristine as

2285
01:25:22,709 --> 01:25:21,360
possible so that people don't try to

2286
01:25:25,110 --> 01:25:22,719
punk me with them

2287
01:25:27,110 --> 01:25:25,120
yeah that's what it is but when you talk

2288
01:25:29,669 --> 01:25:27,120
to people who have these encounters and

2289
01:25:31,270 --> 01:25:29,679
then you talk to somebody sometimes days

2290
01:25:32,709 --> 01:25:31,280
or months later from the same area and

2291
01:25:35,030 --> 01:25:32,719
they tell you a very

2292
01:25:37,030 --> 01:25:35,040
similar type of information

2293
01:25:38,390 --> 01:25:37,040
it it begins to make you realize that

2294
01:25:40,390 --> 01:25:38,400
there's something there that these

2295
01:25:41,189 --> 01:25:40,400
people are not all making up stories

2296
01:25:43,110 --> 01:25:41,199
yeah

2297
01:25:44,390 --> 01:25:43,120
how about group sightings uh have you

2298
01:25:46,870 --> 01:25:44,400
noticed uh

2299
01:25:49,669 --> 01:25:46,880
much sort of witness bias uh personal

2300
01:25:50,870 --> 01:25:49,679
bias in accounts how consistent are

2301
01:25:53,110 --> 01:25:50,880
group siding

2302
01:25:55,350 --> 01:25:53,120
accounts from from one individual to to

2303
01:25:57,030 --> 01:25:55,360
the next in general are you talking

2304
01:25:58,790 --> 01:25:57,040
about when there was a number of people

2305
01:26:00,629 --> 01:25:58,800
together in a group yeah multiple in the

2306
01:26:01,669 --> 01:26:00,639
multiple witnessed event how consistent

2307
01:26:03,669 --> 01:26:01,679
do you find

2308
01:26:05,990 --> 01:26:03,679
the witnesses descriptions

2309
01:26:09,030 --> 01:26:06,000
be honest it's been a long time since

2310
01:26:11,990 --> 01:26:09,040
i've had any case like that

2311
01:26:14,550 --> 01:26:12,000
most of the time it may not be a group i

2312
01:26:15,750 --> 01:26:14,560
mean it may be that you've got separate

2313
01:26:18,870 --> 01:26:15,760
witnesses

2314
01:26:20,629 --> 01:26:18,880
uh in the same area separated and then

2315
01:26:23,430 --> 01:26:20,639
calling in separate reports and giving

2316
01:26:26,870 --> 01:26:23,440
similar accounts yeah i can remember one

2317
01:26:29,910 --> 01:26:26,880
case uh she was going back in the 90s

2318
01:26:32,229 --> 01:26:29,920
this was several miles from where i live

2319
01:26:33,990 --> 01:26:32,239
and a woman was walking her dog that

2320
01:26:36,390 --> 01:26:34,000
evening it's a kind of a rural area

2321
01:26:38,310 --> 01:26:36,400
there's some homes out there and her

2322
01:26:39,910 --> 01:26:38,320
little dog was working looking up in the

2323
01:26:42,550 --> 01:26:39,920
sky and she looks up and here's this

2324
01:26:44,790 --> 01:26:42,560
huge metallic triangular object with an

2325
01:26:47,590 --> 01:26:44,800
extra appendage on the back about 60

2326
01:26:49,750 --> 01:26:47,600
feet up above the electrical lines

2327
01:26:50,950 --> 01:26:49,760
and her first impression was this huge

2328
01:26:52,950 --> 01:26:50,960
aircraft

2329
01:26:54,709 --> 01:26:52,960
is going to crash in your yard

2330
01:26:56,870 --> 01:26:54,719
but it's just hovering there

2331
01:26:59,830 --> 01:26:56,880
and it hovers there and it has a number

2332
01:27:01,590 --> 01:26:59,840
of lights come on on the bottom of it

2333
01:27:03,990 --> 01:27:01,600
and beams of light to come down and hit

2334
01:27:05,270 --> 01:27:04,000
her and the dog and the big red light at

2335
01:27:07,350 --> 01:27:05,280
the bottom

2336
01:27:09,110 --> 01:27:07,360
and the little dog's like paralyzed and

2337
01:27:10,950 --> 01:27:09,120
he grabs his and picks it up and runs in

2338
01:27:12,790 --> 01:27:10,960
the house and she called a friend he

2339
01:27:14,149 --> 01:27:12,800
used to work uh with the police and

2340
01:27:15,750 --> 01:27:14,159
asked if he had heard anything on the

2341
01:27:18,310 --> 01:27:15,760
radio about an airplane crash and he

2342
01:27:19,750 --> 01:27:18,320
hadn't she said as this thing ran went

2343
01:27:21,830 --> 01:27:19,760
down the road

2344
01:27:23,830 --> 01:27:21,840
that there was um

2345
01:27:25,830 --> 01:27:23,840
some unusual cloud formation that began

2346
01:27:26,709 --> 01:27:25,840
to appear in the sky

2347
01:27:29,669 --> 01:27:26,719
and

2348
01:27:31,750 --> 01:27:29,679
anyhow uh he saw that when he came out

2349
01:27:34,950 --> 01:27:31,760
there it was still there the object was

2350
01:27:37,669 --> 01:27:34,960
gone the next afternoon several miles

2351
01:27:39,510 --> 01:27:37,679
away there was some fellas who were uh

2352
01:27:41,590 --> 01:27:39,520
or they do they had the searchlight and

2353
01:27:43,270 --> 01:27:41,600
they were just uh looking through the

2354
01:27:45,990 --> 01:27:43,280
fields i guess looking for deer at the

2355
01:27:48,229 --> 01:27:46,000
time and it was dark and their light

2356
01:27:50,390 --> 01:27:48,239
beam hit what they thought was a tractor

2357
01:27:52,550 --> 01:27:50,400
in the field suddenly it rose up out of

2358
01:27:54,390 --> 01:27:52,560
the field circled the truck and they

2359
01:27:56,390 --> 01:27:54,400
described it very similarly the

2360
01:27:58,790 --> 01:27:56,400
triangular shape with the big red light

2361
01:28:00,790 --> 01:27:58,800
at the bottom and it circles and went

2362
01:28:02,709 --> 01:28:00,800
into the sky and disappeared so there

2363
01:28:04,470 --> 01:28:02,719
were actually three reports within a

2364
01:28:06,390 --> 01:28:04,480
24-hour period in that same area by

2365
01:28:07,990 --> 01:28:06,400
different people

2366
01:28:09,990 --> 01:28:08,000
yeah so you don't have many cases where

2367
01:28:11,510 --> 01:28:10,000
you have a whole group of people that

2368
01:28:14,070 --> 01:28:11,520
are sitting there watching a particular

2369
01:28:14,950 --> 01:28:14,080
event it's mostly singles doubles maybe

2370
01:28:21,110 --> 01:28:14,960
three

2371
01:28:22,870 --> 01:28:21,120
the case is generally where there is

2372
01:28:24,870 --> 01:28:22,880
large groups they turn out to be

2373
01:28:26,310 --> 01:28:24,880
generally like chinese lanterns

2374
01:28:30,310 --> 01:28:26,320
yeah

2375
01:28:32,470 --> 01:28:30,320
uh here in arizona down in phoenix

2376
01:28:34,470 --> 01:28:32,480
could be chalked up to uh some pretty

2377
01:28:36,310 --> 01:28:34,480
mundane events because if they hang

2378
01:28:38,709 --> 01:28:36,320
around usually more than a minute or two

2379
01:28:40,709 --> 01:28:38,719
generally it's the longer that the case

2380
01:28:43,430 --> 01:28:40,719
goes on the longer the siding event goes

2381
01:28:46,229 --> 01:28:43,440
on generally the more

2382
01:28:48,550 --> 01:28:46,239
apt it is to be something mundane

2383
01:28:50,229 --> 01:28:48,560
yeah but you know we talked earlier

2384
01:28:52,229 --> 01:28:50,239
about some of these classic cases and

2385
01:28:53,990 --> 01:28:52,239
again they generally only involve a

2386
01:28:55,669 --> 01:28:54,000
small number of people you know one

2387
01:28:57,430 --> 01:28:55,679
great case that i really

2388
01:29:00,550 --> 01:28:57,440
like talking about occurred i believe

2389
01:29:02,310 --> 01:29:00,560
june 1st of 2013 this was on a four-lane

2390
01:29:04,870 --> 01:29:02,320
highway route 30

2391
01:29:06,870 --> 01:29:04,880
oh 20 some miles outside of pittsburgh

2392
01:29:09,270 --> 01:29:06,880
and this case involved a woman and a

2393
01:29:11,669 --> 01:29:09,280
child and the woman was not a ufo

2394
01:29:12,629 --> 01:29:11,679
believer until after the experience

2395
01:29:18,709 --> 01:29:12,639
and

2396
01:29:20,629 --> 01:29:18,719
down on ralph 30 eastbound with her

2397
01:29:22,310 --> 01:29:20,639
three-year-old child

2398
01:29:24,550 --> 01:29:22,320
and as they're riding down the road

2399
01:29:26,310 --> 01:29:24,560
she's on the cell phone talking she has

2400
01:29:27,910 --> 01:29:26,320
to stop pretty much almost the middle of

2401
01:29:29,750 --> 01:29:27,920
the road she said i couldn't believe

2402
01:29:31,830 --> 01:29:29,760
there was there was no other cars around

2403
01:29:35,350 --> 01:29:31,840
at that time and she said here's this

2404
01:29:37,030 --> 01:29:35,360
huge object that um gets hovering uh

2405
01:29:38,149 --> 01:29:37,040
right in front of her

2406
01:29:40,470 --> 01:29:38,159
and

2407
01:29:41,910 --> 01:29:40,480
her little baby yells mommy flying ipad

2408
01:29:43,830 --> 01:29:41,920
in the sky

2409
01:29:46,390 --> 01:29:43,840
and uh she said this thing was

2410
01:29:48,709 --> 01:29:46,400
completely silent hovering about 60 feet

2411
01:29:51,110 --> 01:29:48,719
above that section of the road and she

2412
01:29:53,510 --> 01:29:51,120
said it was a basic rectangular she's

2413
01:29:56,229 --> 01:29:53,520
looking for like a gondola on the blimp

2414
01:29:59,350 --> 01:29:56,239
but there wasn't any she said this thing

2415
01:30:00,229 --> 01:29:59,360
was about 55 feet long about 35-40 feet

2416
01:30:02,629 --> 01:30:00,239
high

2417
01:30:04,470 --> 01:30:02,639
and the lighting configuration was

2418
01:30:07,110 --> 01:30:04,480
completely unlike that of conventional

2419
01:30:09,510 --> 01:30:07,120
aircraft it was making those sounds

2420
01:30:11,350 --> 01:30:09,520
and uh the woman said she's on the phone

2421
01:30:13,189 --> 01:30:11,360
talking to somebody trying to explain to

2422
01:30:15,430 --> 01:30:13,199
her what she's seeing now she has to

2423
01:30:17,669 --> 01:30:15,440
pass underneath the object to get home

2424
01:30:20,470 --> 01:30:17,679
when she goes underneath it she says a

2425
01:30:23,669 --> 01:30:20,480
digital display on her car clock

2426
01:30:26,390 --> 01:30:23,679
temperature and airbag status went off

2427
01:30:28,709 --> 01:30:26,400
the bluetooth sync on it blacked out the

2428
01:30:31,189 --> 01:30:28,719
radio went off the arizona fm she

2429
01:30:34,070 --> 01:30:31,199
attempted to take a picture with her

2430
01:30:35,750 --> 01:30:34,080
iphone let's break it right there and

2431
01:30:38,629 --> 01:30:35,760
we'll get the answer on the other side

2432
01:30:48,950 --> 01:30:38,639
of this discussion from stan gordon with

2433
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[Applause]

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this is jerome clark author of the ufo

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encyclopedia and other books you're

2546
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so stan gordon's talking about this

2547
01:35:21,110 --> 01:35:20,320
amazing sighting

2548
01:35:23,430 --> 01:35:21,120
where

2549
01:35:25,910 --> 01:35:23,440
the witness tried to take a picture with

2550
01:35:27,189 --> 01:35:25,920
her iphone after systems are failing on

2551
01:35:30,070 --> 01:35:27,199
her car

2552
01:35:31,669 --> 01:35:30,080
what happens yes so she aims her iphone

2553
01:35:33,750 --> 01:35:31,679
at and she told me

2554
01:35:34,870 --> 01:35:33,760
the iphone would not go into the camera

2555
01:35:37,110 --> 01:35:34,880
mode

2556
01:35:39,189 --> 01:35:37,120
and she continues down the road about a

2557
01:35:41,030 --> 01:35:39,199
quarter mile or so away she said maybe

2558
01:35:43,510 --> 01:35:41,040
about a half my quarter mile issues that

2559
01:35:44,950 --> 01:35:43,520
all the electronics came back on and

2560
01:35:46,950 --> 01:35:44,960
went back to normal

2561
01:35:49,110 --> 01:35:46,960
she became a believer after that

2562
01:35:51,030 --> 01:35:49,120
and those are the kind of cases that

2563
01:35:52,790 --> 01:35:51,040
have been going on and that's an example

2564
01:35:54,870 --> 01:35:52,800
of some in recent years

2565
01:35:56,310 --> 01:35:54,880
that you don't hear about because she

2566
01:35:58,470 --> 01:35:56,320
didn't want anybody to know about who

2567
01:36:00,149 --> 01:35:58,480
she was about what she had seen this is

2568
01:36:02,870 --> 01:36:00,159
interesting here you know we think that

2569
01:36:05,430 --> 01:36:02,880
the classic electromagnetic interference

2570
01:36:07,830 --> 01:36:05,440
cases are from long ago and far away and

2571
01:36:09,830 --> 01:36:07,840
obviously they're not oh they're not and

2572
01:36:13,189 --> 01:36:09,840
i can tell you i i'm aware of several

2573
01:36:15,189 --> 01:36:13,199
other cases in the last few years 2015

2574
01:36:17,110 --> 01:36:15,199
we're getting a number of very large

2575
01:36:19,350 --> 01:36:17,120
triangular ufo sighting reports i

2576
01:36:21,510 --> 01:36:19,360
believe it was in october this is way up

2577
01:36:22,790 --> 01:36:21,520
in the mountains between westmore and

2578
01:36:25,430 --> 01:36:22,800
fayette county

2579
01:36:27,910 --> 01:36:25,440
i went up to this seller's property

2580
01:36:30,149 --> 01:36:27,920
it was a beautiful day early morning 10

2581
01:36:32,070 --> 01:36:30,159
o'clock 11 o'clock in the morning

2582
01:36:33,750 --> 01:36:32,080
he's sitting there uh by the window at

2583
01:36:36,070 --> 01:36:33,760
the table drinking a cup of coffee when

2584
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all of a sudden it got really dark like

2585
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a big storm was coming over so he hurtly

2586
01:36:42,149 --> 01:36:40,320
got up

2587
01:36:43,990 --> 01:36:42,159
and he stepped outside he grabbed his

2588
01:36:45,990 --> 01:36:44,000
fully charged phone

2589
01:36:48,709 --> 01:36:46,000
his dog that normally always goes with

2590
01:36:50,870 --> 01:36:48,719
him refused to go out the guy goes steps

2591
01:36:53,910 --> 01:36:50,880
outside walks out the short distance and

2592
01:36:57,189 --> 01:36:53,920
looks up and 500 feet above is this huge

2593
01:36:59,109 --> 01:36:57,199
solid black silent triangular object

2594
01:37:01,430 --> 01:36:59,119
well that's the first thing he does he

2595
01:37:03,830 --> 01:37:01,440
tries to take a picture of it he said

2596
01:37:06,070 --> 01:37:03,840
that phone completely discharged its

2597
01:37:07,669 --> 01:37:06,080
power and all the power was going from

2598
01:37:10,149 --> 01:37:07,679
it did not get a picture and the thing

2599
01:37:12,310 --> 01:37:10,159
covered there then took off and was gone

2600
01:37:14,229 --> 01:37:12,320
but we had been receiving other reports

2601
01:37:16,310 --> 01:37:14,239
for weeks around the area people seeing

2602
01:37:17,750 --> 01:37:16,320
something similar yeah i hate when that

2603
01:37:19,270 --> 01:37:17,760
happens boy i've had that happen a

2604
01:37:21,590 --> 01:37:19,280
couple of times and i've had numbers of

2605
01:37:24,950 --> 01:37:21,600
witnesses that have had electronic

2606
01:37:26,870 --> 01:37:24,960
failures including the ufo hunters uh

2607
01:37:28,870 --> 01:37:26,880
history channel production team that was

2608
01:37:30,470 --> 01:37:28,880
out over the bradshaw ranch in sedona

2609
01:37:32,790 --> 01:37:30,480
every battery and every camera and all

2610
01:37:35,910 --> 01:37:32,800
the spare batteries all were drained

2611
01:37:38,550 --> 01:37:35,920
and they were unable to film anything

2612
01:37:39,910 --> 01:37:38,560
and you know not as well known but that

2613
01:37:42,709 --> 01:37:39,920
has happened with other type of

2614
01:37:45,109 --> 01:37:42,719
paranormal events has happened with some

2615
01:37:46,870 --> 01:37:45,119
cryptid cases yeah that's you mentioned

2616
01:37:49,189 --> 01:37:46,880
that and i've never heard of of a

2617
01:37:50,629 --> 01:37:49,199
bigfoot actually causing electrical

2618
01:37:52,950 --> 01:37:50,639
systems to fail

2619
01:37:55,990 --> 01:37:52,960
maybe i have but it's so rare it doesn't

2620
01:37:58,310 --> 01:37:56,000
stick in my mind i'll give you a brief

2621
01:37:59,830 --> 01:37:58,320
story of uh why i mentioned one earlier

2622
01:38:01,510 --> 01:37:59,840
out by around lake trout where the thing

2623
01:38:03,669 --> 01:38:01,520
i walked out in front of the car a guy

2624
01:38:05,669 --> 01:38:03,679
had a relatively new car and the engine

2625
01:38:07,109 --> 01:38:05,679
started the spider started to slow down

2626
01:38:09,109 --> 01:38:07,119
when the creature walked off into the

2627
01:38:10,790 --> 01:38:09,119
woods it came back to normal but there

2628
01:38:12,629 --> 01:38:10,800
have been other incidents too where the

2629
01:38:15,109 --> 01:38:12,639
same thing has happened when people have

2630
01:38:17,750 --> 01:38:15,119
been in close proximity to some of these

2631
01:38:19,189 --> 01:38:17,760
creatures and as the one case i can

2632
01:38:21,270 --> 01:38:19,199
think of there were two people in the

2633
01:38:22,950 --> 01:38:21,280
car this creature seemed to just

2634
01:38:24,790 --> 01:38:22,960
suddenly appear out of nowhere on the

2635
01:38:26,470 --> 01:38:24,800
side of the road they had to swerve

2636
01:38:28,310 --> 01:38:26,480
around to miss hitting it

2637
01:38:29,830 --> 01:38:28,320
and at that point

2638
01:38:30,709 --> 01:38:29,840
they realized that they were losing

2639
01:38:33,350 --> 01:38:30,719
power

2640
01:38:35,990 --> 01:38:33,360
and the driver is hitting the gas pedal

2641
01:38:37,430 --> 01:38:36,000
and the thing is moving very very slowly

2642
01:38:38,790 --> 01:38:37,440
and finally when they get a short

2643
01:38:41,669 --> 01:38:38,800
distance down the road away from the

2644
01:38:43,510 --> 01:38:41,679
creature it begins to work like normal

2645
01:38:45,189 --> 01:38:43,520
that has happened in more than one case

2646
01:38:47,109 --> 01:38:45,199
and around the country you just don't

2647
01:38:49,590 --> 01:38:47,119
hear about it let me ask you a question

2648
01:38:51,510 --> 01:38:49,600
here are there cases of close proximity

2649
01:38:52,629 --> 01:38:51,520
like that where there's no effect

2650
01:38:54,629 --> 01:38:52,639
whatever

2651
01:38:56,229 --> 01:38:54,639
oh

2652
01:38:58,870 --> 01:38:56,239
the other thing is here which is

2653
01:38:59,910 --> 01:38:58,880
interesting has anyone done this kind of

2654
01:39:01,990 --> 01:38:59,920
survey

2655
01:39:04,629 --> 01:39:02,000
when this happens

2656
01:39:06,950 --> 01:39:04,639
is it everybody who is near

2657
01:39:09,590 --> 01:39:06,960
the object at the time it happens

2658
01:39:12,870 --> 01:39:09,600
does it involve a specific brand of car

2659
01:39:15,030 --> 01:39:12,880
what and that's a great thing and i wish

2660
01:39:17,030 --> 01:39:15,040
we would have studies like that done but

2661
01:39:18,709 --> 01:39:17,040
the cases are so rare

2662
01:39:19,750 --> 01:39:18,719
if you have more than one motorcycle

2663
01:39:23,109 --> 01:39:19,760
well you may know who the other

2664
01:39:25,430 --> 01:39:23,119
motorists are yeah it's it's easy to say

2665
01:39:27,109 --> 01:39:25,440
but it's not easy to do but i would like

2666
01:39:28,470 --> 01:39:27,119
to see the kind of studies being done on

2667
01:39:31,030 --> 01:39:28,480
future cases

2668
01:39:34,390 --> 01:39:31,040
or at least at least to find out if if

2669
01:39:37,030 --> 01:39:34,400
it's a pre let's say early 70s car with

2670
01:39:38,870 --> 01:39:37,040
a pre-electronic ignition i would be

2671
01:39:41,910 --> 01:39:38,880
very interested to see uh cases like

2672
01:39:44,390 --> 01:39:41,920
this of of older cars that have uh

2673
01:39:46,629 --> 01:39:44,400
more analog you know electronic

2674
01:39:47,990 --> 01:39:46,639
electrical components as opposed to

2675
01:39:50,149 --> 01:39:48,000
everything that's digitized and

2676
01:39:51,830 --> 01:39:50,159
computerized in today's world you would

2677
01:39:54,310 --> 01:39:51,840
think that we'd have more

2678
01:39:56,709 --> 01:39:54,320
cases of stalled stalled electrical

2679
01:39:58,870 --> 01:39:56,719
systems now in the modern age with such

2680
01:40:01,270 --> 01:39:58,880
a reliance on these types of systems as

2681
01:40:03,270 --> 01:40:01,280
opposed to back in the maybe early 70s

2682
01:40:05,590 --> 01:40:03,280
the 60s and the 50s where where these

2683
01:40:08,709 --> 01:40:05,600
cars did not have these uh you know such

2684
01:40:11,189 --> 01:40:08,719
a reliance on on digital uh technology

2685
01:40:13,830 --> 01:40:11,199
which didn't really even exist then

2686
01:40:15,510 --> 01:40:13,840
and i agree but yet a lot of the cases

2687
01:40:17,990 --> 01:40:15,520
like this we hear about happen more

2688
01:40:20,390 --> 01:40:18,000
commonly especially with ufos in the 50s

2689
01:40:21,430 --> 01:40:20,400
and 60s and 70s yeah

2690
01:40:24,470 --> 01:40:21,440
yeah well you would think that you would

2691
01:40:26,470 --> 01:40:24,480
hear more uh more of these types of

2692
01:40:29,350 --> 01:40:26,480
cases now in the modern era where we

2693
01:40:31,910 --> 01:40:29,360
have such a reliance on on electronics

2694
01:40:33,430 --> 01:40:31,920
uh yeah you would but again if this is

2695
01:40:35,270 --> 01:40:33,440
something that is happening and people

2696
01:40:37,990 --> 01:40:35,280
just aren't reporting it because

2697
01:40:40,229 --> 01:40:38,000
reluctant to talk about certain details

2698
01:40:42,709 --> 01:40:40,239
we don't know you know it's funny when

2699
01:40:44,550 --> 01:40:42,719
you talk to different researchers um

2700
01:40:46,310 --> 01:40:44,560
several years ago i spoke out of

2701
01:40:48,709 --> 01:40:46,320
mcminnville oregon

2702
01:40:50,310 --> 01:40:48,719
on on the topic of ufos and bigfoot a

2703
01:40:51,109 --> 01:40:50,320
lot of the strange aspects of it and

2704
01:40:53,830 --> 01:40:51,119
that's

2705
01:40:56,149 --> 01:40:53,840
really right in prime bigfoot areas

2706
01:40:57,990 --> 01:40:56,159
and i was kind of expecting that it

2707
01:40:59,910 --> 01:40:58,000
would probably be some negative response

2708
01:41:01,750 --> 01:40:59,920
to what i was saying but instead it was

2709
01:41:03,590 --> 01:41:01,760
extremely positive

2710
01:41:05,830 --> 01:41:03,600
and witnesses and researchers later

2711
01:41:07,510 --> 01:41:05,840
contacted me some were there that day

2712
01:41:09,830 --> 01:41:07,520
and they said they were so glad that i

2713
01:41:11,830 --> 01:41:09,840
brought this up because the same thing

2714
01:41:13,270 --> 01:41:11,840
was happening out there with the

2715
01:41:15,510 --> 01:41:13,280
disappearing creatures with the

2716
01:41:17,030 --> 01:41:15,520
shootings with the disappearing tracks

2717
01:41:19,270 --> 01:41:17,040
and it was going on out there but

2718
01:41:21,030 --> 01:41:19,280
everybody was reluctant to talk about it

2719
01:41:22,629 --> 01:41:21,040
and it's been going on for years and

2720
01:41:24,709 --> 01:41:22,639
years i mean we heard a lot about this

2721
01:41:26,709 --> 01:41:24,719
in the 70s from around the country and

2722
01:41:28,470 --> 01:41:26,719
we've heard about it since then but

2723
01:41:30,390 --> 01:41:28,480
again it's a topic that a lot of people

2724
01:41:31,350 --> 01:41:30,400
don't want to discuss

2725
01:41:33,750 --> 01:41:31,360
well

2726
01:41:35,350 --> 01:41:33,760
what do you think is behind uh bigfoot

2727
01:41:36,070 --> 01:41:35,360
you mentioned that when you started out

2728
01:41:41,750 --> 01:41:36,080
you

2729
01:41:44,550 --> 01:41:41,760
we were dealing with some sort of as yet

2730
01:41:46,870 --> 01:41:44,560
defined physical creature but in light

2731
01:41:48,390 --> 01:41:46,880
of all these strange

2732
01:41:49,430 --> 01:41:48,400
cases that you've investigated that

2733
01:41:51,910 --> 01:41:49,440
would indicate we're dealing with

2734
01:41:53,189 --> 01:41:51,920
something far far more complex

2735
01:41:54,950 --> 01:41:53,199
where do you come down and what we're

2736
01:41:56,229 --> 01:41:54,960
dealing with are you like nick redfern

2737
01:41:58,870 --> 01:41:56,239
and think we're dealing with a fortian

2738
01:42:00,470 --> 01:41:58,880
creature that that's paranormal that

2739
01:42:02,149 --> 01:42:00,480
isn't uh really

2740
01:42:03,990 --> 01:42:02,159
you can't be described as fully flesh

2741
01:42:05,830 --> 01:42:04,000
and blood that maybe it's it's

2742
01:42:07,990 --> 01:42:05,840
paraphysical

2743
01:42:10,550 --> 01:42:08,000
where's your thinking uh progressed

2744
01:42:12,790 --> 01:42:10,560
through the years in that in that regard

2745
01:42:14,629 --> 01:42:12,800
what i found years ago and it's going on

2746
01:42:16,709 --> 01:42:14,639
more and more in recent years not just

2747
01:42:19,750 --> 01:42:16,719
with bigfoot but other cryptids

2748
01:42:21,510 --> 01:42:19,760
low-level close range ufo sightings what

2749
01:42:24,229 --> 01:42:21,520
i realized was that many of these

2750
01:42:27,270 --> 01:42:24,239
encounters take place in the vicinity of

2751
01:42:29,910 --> 01:42:27,280
high energy sources so they calmly occur

2752
01:42:32,149 --> 01:42:29,920
around those high tension power lines

2753
01:42:34,310 --> 01:42:32,159
and power plants and uh radio

2754
01:42:36,629 --> 01:42:34,320
communication towers and reservoirs or

2755
01:42:38,470 --> 01:42:36,639
railroad tracks and gas wells and gas

2756
01:42:40,310 --> 01:42:38,480
lines that goes on and on

2757
01:42:42,310 --> 01:42:40,320
that's something that i i've solved for

2758
01:42:44,629 --> 01:42:42,320
a long time there's a direct energy

2759
01:42:46,950 --> 01:42:44,639
connection to a lot of the phenomena to

2760
01:42:48,229 --> 01:42:46,960
me it appears as though we're dealing

2761
01:42:50,149 --> 01:42:48,239
with a phenomenon that has both a

2762
01:42:52,149 --> 01:42:50,159
physical and a nonsensical component to

2763
01:42:54,470 --> 01:42:52,159
it that these things at times can look

2764
01:42:55,669 --> 01:42:54,480
completely physically solid sometimes

2765
01:42:57,830 --> 01:42:55,679
they don't

2766
01:42:59,109 --> 01:42:57,840
they can leave physical evidence behind

2767
01:43:01,109 --> 01:42:59,119
and then they're going they come and

2768
01:43:03,189 --> 01:43:01,119
they go people hit them with cars they

2769
01:43:05,510 --> 01:43:03,199
disappear you don't hear about that very

2770
01:43:07,430 --> 01:43:05,520
often it's very rare people shoot out

2771
01:43:09,350 --> 01:43:07,440
and they disappear in a flash of light

2772
01:43:11,430 --> 01:43:09,360
it's very very strange things we're

2773
01:43:12,709 --> 01:43:11,440
dealing with once again i do not have

2774
01:43:15,109 --> 01:43:12,719
the answers

2775
01:43:16,629 --> 01:43:15,119
i'm not sure if anybody does but there's

2776
01:43:18,229 --> 01:43:16,639
a lot more to this than any of us

2777
01:43:19,990 --> 01:43:18,239
understand

2778
01:43:21,669 --> 01:43:20,000
speaking of hitting one uh creature in

2779
01:43:23,750 --> 01:43:21,679
it disappearing

2780
01:43:25,350 --> 01:43:23,760
uh one of my uh i had a flurry of

2781
01:43:26,390 --> 01:43:25,360
bigfoot sightings which we've talked

2782
01:43:27,910 --> 01:43:26,400
about

2783
01:43:29,910 --> 01:43:27,920
over the years

2784
01:43:31,109 --> 01:43:29,920
back in december uh late december early

2785
01:43:33,910 --> 01:43:31,119
january

2786
01:43:35,750 --> 01:43:33,920
of 94 and five and uh

2787
01:43:38,070 --> 01:43:35,760
one of these seven uh reports within

2788
01:43:40,709 --> 01:43:38,080
that eight or nine day period i think

2789
01:43:43,669 --> 01:43:40,719
was a snow plow operator on

2790
01:43:46,070 --> 01:43:43,679
the highway that connects

2791
01:43:48,709 --> 01:43:46,080
santa fe with uh with colorado basically

2792
01:43:50,310 --> 01:43:48,719
285 state highway it goes up into the

2793
01:43:53,030 --> 01:43:50,320
san luis valley and he was plowing the

2794
01:43:55,510 --> 01:43:53,040
road they'd gotten a pretty good pasting

2795
01:43:58,070 --> 01:43:55,520
of snow it was about six inches of snow

2796
01:44:00,149 --> 01:43:58,080
and so he was plowing 285

2797
01:44:02,950 --> 01:44:00,159
and all of a sudden in his headlights he

2798
01:44:04,310 --> 01:44:02,960
sees a big hairy

2799
01:44:07,350 --> 01:44:04,320
hominid

2800
01:44:08,229 --> 01:44:07,360
and he was going too fast to really you

2801
01:44:09,270 --> 01:44:08,239
know

2802
01:44:11,669 --> 01:44:09,280
risk

2803
01:44:13,109 --> 01:44:11,679
slamming on his brakes so he he hit it

2804
01:44:15,430 --> 01:44:13,119
full speed boom

2805
01:44:16,709 --> 01:44:15,440
and uh and then then he he slowly came

2806
01:44:19,030 --> 01:44:16,719
to a stop

2807
01:44:20,390 --> 01:44:19,040
and uh the thing got up it kind of

2808
01:44:22,629 --> 01:44:20,400
seemed a little bit

2809
01:44:23,990 --> 01:44:22,639
you know discombobulated a bit but then

2810
01:44:25,590 --> 01:44:24,000
it ran off

2811
01:44:27,189 --> 01:44:25,600
and the driver told me he said there's

2812
01:44:28,550 --> 01:44:27,199
no way that that thing could have

2813
01:44:30,790 --> 01:44:28,560
survived

2814
01:44:33,270 --> 01:44:30,800
being hit by a snowplow

2815
01:44:35,270 --> 01:44:33,280
doing at least 40 miles an hour 40 45

2816
01:44:36,629 --> 01:44:35,280
miles an hour and he said he was just

2817
01:44:38,550 --> 01:44:36,639
absolutely amazed that the thing got up

2818
01:44:40,550 --> 01:44:38,560
and ran away as if nothing had happened

2819
01:44:41,990 --> 01:44:40,560
and when he got back to the shop he

2820
01:44:43,590 --> 01:44:42,000
noticed that his plow was out of

2821
01:44:46,310 --> 01:44:43,600
alignment the thing had actually dented

2822
01:44:48,310 --> 01:44:46,320
his plow and and screwed up the uh

2823
01:44:50,390 --> 01:44:48,320
the angle of the of the blade on it and

2824
01:44:53,510 --> 01:44:50,400
and he he claimed there was a dent there

2825
01:44:56,149 --> 01:44:53,520
i went and looked i didn't see a dent uh

2826
01:44:58,470 --> 01:44:56,159
on it but there definitely was it pushed

2827
01:45:00,470 --> 01:44:58,480
in that side of the the bracket on the

2828
01:45:02,070 --> 01:45:00,480
uh on on the truck you know they had

2829
01:45:03,189 --> 01:45:02,080
been pushed in where he claimed he had

2830
01:45:04,950 --> 01:45:03,199
hit this thing

2831
01:45:06,470 --> 01:45:04,960
now

2832
01:45:07,910 --> 01:45:06,480
what are you supposed to tell somebody

2833
01:45:10,470 --> 01:45:07,920
like that you know you hit something

2834
01:45:12,629 --> 01:45:10,480
doing 45 miles an hour you knock it down

2835
01:45:14,229 --> 01:45:12,639
it gets up kind of staggers around a

2836
01:45:15,270 --> 01:45:14,239
little bit and then runs off you're

2837
01:45:16,390 --> 01:45:15,280
going to tell him that the guy didn't

2838
01:45:17,669 --> 01:45:16,400
have that experience

2839
01:45:19,830 --> 01:45:17,679
uh

2840
01:45:21,270 --> 01:45:19,840
absolutely amazing that he even reported

2841
01:45:23,830 --> 01:45:21,280
it number one but number two the

2842
01:45:26,149 --> 01:45:23,840
description like you said is extremely

2843
01:45:29,189 --> 01:45:26,159
rare let's do a break and we'll have

2844
01:45:38,980 --> 01:45:29,199
more of this with gene chris and stan

2845
01:45:43,590 --> 01:45:40,070
[Applause]

2846
01:45:47,590 --> 01:45:43,600
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[Music]

2896
01:48:03,270 --> 01:47:59,590
welcome back to the paracast the gold

2897
01:48:04,550 --> 01:48:03,280
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2898
01:48:07,910 --> 01:48:04,560
and now

2899
01:48:11,590 --> 01:48:07,920
here's gene steinberg

2900
01:48:16,310 --> 01:48:13,910
jess i was thinking of that maybe this

2901
01:48:17,430 --> 01:48:16,320
is a real superhero he hit but if you

2902
01:48:20,709 --> 01:48:17,440
are hitting

2903
01:48:22,550 --> 01:48:20,719
a living being chris at 40 miles an hour

2904
01:48:23,990 --> 01:48:22,560
that's gonna cause quite a bit of damage

2905
01:48:25,430 --> 01:48:24,000
to the truck

2906
01:48:28,149 --> 01:48:25,440
not just a dent

2907
01:48:29,109 --> 01:48:28,159
well he he hit it with a snowplow gene

2908
01:48:30,950 --> 01:48:29,119
okay

2909
01:48:32,470 --> 01:48:30,960
and he was in a big dump truck i mean

2910
01:48:34,229 --> 01:48:32,480
you know how these guys they haul haul

2911
01:48:36,229 --> 01:48:34,239
ass along the highway and

2912
01:48:38,470 --> 01:48:36,239
and uh you know have the blade at an

2913
01:48:40,310 --> 01:48:38,480
angle and they're pushing the snow off

2914
01:48:41,750 --> 01:48:40,320
well he hit this thing and it pushed the

2915
01:48:43,590 --> 01:48:41,760
blade all the way back in towards the

2916
01:48:45,109 --> 01:48:43,600
truck and it

2917
01:48:47,109 --> 01:48:45,119
had a more of an angle than it was

2918
01:48:49,910 --> 01:48:47,119
supposed to be let's put it that way

2919
01:48:50,950 --> 01:48:49,920
okay he said it dented the blade i i've

2920
01:48:52,709 --> 01:48:50,960
again

2921
01:48:55,109 --> 01:48:52,719
maybe it did but i didn't really i

2922
01:48:57,430 --> 01:48:55,119
wasn't able to really determine that

2923
01:48:59,109 --> 01:48:57,440
but you'd think it'd be blood and hair

2924
01:49:00,950 --> 01:48:59,119
and physical evidence and all sorts of

2925
01:49:04,390 --> 01:49:00,960
stuff and he said it was as if the thing

2926
01:49:05,270 --> 01:49:04,400
was was impervious uh to any sort of

2927
01:49:07,910 --> 01:49:05,280
real

2928
01:49:08,870 --> 01:49:07,920
catastrophic damage from from a strike

2929
01:49:11,270 --> 01:49:08,880
like that

2930
01:49:13,030 --> 01:49:11,280
very strange there's so many aspects to

2931
01:49:15,109 --> 01:49:13,040
bigfoot that people don't think about

2932
01:49:16,470 --> 01:49:15,119
that just doesn't make any sense

2933
01:49:18,149 --> 01:49:16,480
and alex i said i've been working around

2934
01:49:19,270 --> 01:49:18,159
a new program now just dealing with this

2935
01:49:20,870 --> 01:49:19,280
type of thing

2936
01:49:22,950 --> 01:49:20,880
one one thing it's kind of interesting a

2937
01:49:25,109 --> 01:49:22,960
lot of people think about this with so

2938
01:49:26,629 --> 01:49:25,119
many of the bigfoot encounters when

2939
01:49:28,629 --> 01:49:26,639
these creatures are walking out in front

2940
01:49:30,229 --> 01:49:28,639
of people's vehicles and they're walking

2941
01:49:31,189 --> 01:49:30,239
across the road

2942
01:49:33,510 --> 01:49:31,199
and

2943
01:49:35,350 --> 01:49:33,520
they do not seem concerned at all what

2944
01:49:37,270 --> 01:49:35,360
they're walking into are they going to

2945
01:49:38,790 --> 01:49:37,280
fall over a cliff they're going to roll

2946
01:49:40,830 --> 01:49:38,800
down a hill they're going to go into a

2947
01:49:43,350 --> 01:49:40,840
stream they seem to be completely

2948
01:49:44,790 --> 01:49:43,360
uncaring and just continue on and on

2949
01:49:46,390 --> 01:49:44,800
without looking and have any care

2950
01:49:48,870 --> 01:49:46,400
whatsoever

2951
01:49:51,830 --> 01:49:48,880
chris any questions from our listeners

2952
01:49:54,390 --> 01:49:51,840
okay uh stan as you know um we have

2953
01:49:55,910 --> 01:49:54,400
a forum where folks are able to post

2954
01:49:57,310 --> 01:49:55,920
questions for our guests at our question

2955
01:49:59,350 --> 01:49:57,320
bank at

2956
01:50:00,550 --> 01:49:59,360
forum.theperacast.com and we do have

2957
01:50:03,109 --> 01:50:00,560
some questions here for you and i'd like

2958
01:50:04,709 --> 01:50:03,119
to pull one out for you

2959
01:50:06,470 --> 01:50:04,719
sure um

2960
01:50:07,430 --> 01:50:06,480
now i don't know why they're asking you

2961
01:50:10,070 --> 01:50:07,440
about the

2962
01:50:11,030 --> 01:50:10,080
the dover demon mothman or the jersey

2963
01:50:13,910 --> 01:50:11,040
devil

2964
01:50:17,189 --> 01:50:13,920
you're kind of near there but

2965
01:50:18,470 --> 01:50:17,199
more peripheral those seem to be more

2966
01:50:20,709 --> 01:50:18,480
um

2967
01:50:24,470 --> 01:50:20,719
i don't know just kind of localized

2968
01:50:25,990 --> 01:50:24,480
para creatures if you will but um

2969
01:50:27,830 --> 01:50:26,000
have you seen any reports this is a

2970
01:50:29,830 --> 01:50:27,840
question from bisbee high folk have you

2971
01:50:31,590 --> 01:50:29,840
seen any reports lately that would show

2972
01:50:34,070 --> 01:50:31,600
a reappearance of the dover demon

2973
01:50:35,669 --> 01:50:34,080
mothman or the jersey devil all which i

2974
01:50:37,109 --> 01:50:35,679
as i mentioned are kind of surrounding

2975
01:50:39,350 --> 01:50:37,119
you

2976
01:50:41,510 --> 01:50:39,360
there outside of pennsylvania

2977
01:50:43,350 --> 01:50:41,520
actually in my newest book astonishing

2978
01:50:45,430 --> 01:50:43,360
encounters i've got some extremely

2979
01:50:47,990 --> 01:50:45,440
strange cryptid cases things people

2980
01:50:50,070 --> 01:50:48,000
never heard before but there's a very

2981
01:50:51,590 --> 01:50:50,080
very weird story in there goes back to

2982
01:50:53,510 --> 01:50:51,600
1985

2983
01:50:55,030 --> 01:50:53,520
it'd be a little difficult to try to

2984
01:50:57,910 --> 01:50:55,040
explain

2985
01:51:00,390 --> 01:50:57,920
over the radio but anyhow

2986
01:51:03,430 --> 01:51:00,400
this family riding down the road

2987
01:51:05,189 --> 01:51:03,440
as they're riding down the road

2988
01:51:07,830 --> 01:51:05,199
there's some strange phenomena going on

2989
01:51:09,030 --> 01:51:07,840
on the side of the road up in a tree as

2990
01:51:11,669 --> 01:51:09,040
i recall

2991
01:51:12,550 --> 01:51:11,679
and this creature that they perceive up

2992
01:51:14,709 --> 01:51:12,560
there

2993
01:51:16,709 --> 01:51:14,719
when you look at the head of this thing

2994
01:51:18,310 --> 01:51:16,719
it has some similarity to the dover

2995
01:51:21,430 --> 01:51:18,320
demon

2996
01:51:23,750 --> 01:51:21,440
it's a very very strange account

2997
01:51:26,149 --> 01:51:23,760
and um so you hear these things once in

2998
01:51:29,030 --> 01:51:26,159
a while the mothman type thing

2999
01:51:30,950 --> 01:51:29,040
i get a lot of reports that i kind of

3000
01:51:33,590 --> 01:51:30,960
put under the title of thunderbird

3001
01:51:35,109 --> 01:51:33,600
sightings because for years and years

3002
01:51:37,270 --> 01:51:35,119
and we're seeing more and more reports

3003
01:51:39,589 --> 01:51:37,280
in more recent years people reporting

3004
01:51:41,750 --> 01:51:39,599
these huge generally dark brown or black

3005
01:51:44,229 --> 01:51:41,760
birds with these massive wingspans like

3006
01:51:46,629 --> 01:51:44,239
that of a small aircraft in some cases

3007
01:51:48,629 --> 01:51:46,639
they're very close so you can determine

3008
01:51:50,950 --> 01:51:48,639
the wingspan when actually they're on

3009
01:51:52,149 --> 01:51:50,960
the ground and blocking vehicles from

3010
01:51:54,470 --> 01:51:52,159
passing

3011
01:51:56,629 --> 01:51:54,480
and so under those reports you've got

3012
01:51:58,629 --> 01:51:56,639
giant bird sightings you've also got

3013
01:52:01,589 --> 01:51:58,639
these other huge flying cryptids that

3014
01:52:05,030 --> 01:52:01,599
people describe more like giant bats

3015
01:52:06,870 --> 01:52:05,040
with more leathery skin and no feathers

3016
01:52:08,229 --> 01:52:06,880
some are reporting what appear to be

3017
01:52:11,109 --> 01:52:08,239
prehistoric

3018
01:52:12,709 --> 01:52:11,119
uh type of creatures like pterodactyls

3019
01:52:14,550 --> 01:52:12,719
or territories

3020
01:52:17,189 --> 01:52:14,560
it's time we're talking about something

3021
01:52:19,750 --> 01:52:17,199
that looks uh more like gargoyles

3022
01:52:21,990 --> 01:52:19,760
and uh these reports continue to be

3023
01:52:23,669 --> 01:52:22,000
coming in from pennsylvania and many

3024
01:52:25,830 --> 01:52:23,679
other parts of the country

3025
01:52:27,109 --> 01:52:25,840
and some of these cases are very very

3026
01:52:29,910 --> 01:52:27,119
fascinating

3027
01:52:32,229 --> 01:52:29,920
and these three ports they go on and on

3028
01:52:33,990 --> 01:52:32,239
and some of these cases again suggest

3029
01:52:35,910 --> 01:52:34,000
we're dealing with something that may

3030
01:52:38,470 --> 01:52:35,920
not be a normal flesh and blood animal

3031
01:52:40,629 --> 01:52:38,480
just like the black panther reports

3032
01:52:42,470 --> 01:52:40,639
and i assume you've had some out your

3033
01:52:44,310 --> 01:52:42,480
way chris have you had some of those you

3034
01:52:46,310 --> 01:52:44,320
know we haven't the closest of we've

3035
01:52:48,390 --> 01:52:46,320
gotten have been jaguar reports in

3036
01:52:50,070 --> 01:52:48,400
southern arizona

3037
01:52:52,550 --> 01:52:50,080
and i've never heard of any uh black

3038
01:52:55,350 --> 01:52:52,560
panther reports from the southwest

3039
01:52:58,149 --> 01:52:55,360
okay well we have had a history of them

3040
01:52:59,990 --> 01:52:58,159
here along the east in pennsylvania

3041
01:53:01,510 --> 01:53:00,000
going back many many years of course

3042
01:53:03,430 --> 01:53:01,520
when you think of panthers you think

3043
01:53:05,510 --> 01:53:03,440
about what people see in the zoo black

3044
01:53:07,030 --> 01:53:05,520
jaguars black leopards

3045
01:53:08,390 --> 01:53:07,040
something that's not supposed to be an

3046
01:53:10,550 --> 01:53:08,400
animal not supposed to exist as part of

3047
01:53:13,030 --> 01:53:10,560
the country but people see them almost

3048
01:53:15,350 --> 01:53:13,040
yearly and i have had hunters in the

3049
01:53:17,350 --> 01:53:15,360
last probably three years i've seen them

3050
01:53:19,750 --> 01:53:17,360
at close range i mean within 30 some

3051
01:53:21,589 --> 01:53:19,760
feet in daylight in fields

3052
01:53:23,510 --> 01:53:21,599
and they got very good looks at them and

3053
01:53:25,270 --> 01:53:23,520
uh i mean there have been even cases

3054
01:53:27,910 --> 01:53:25,280
where there was a search for one back in

3055
01:53:29,430 --> 01:53:27,920
1983 in a suburb of pittsburgh in

3056
01:53:31,669 --> 01:53:29,440
bloomfield where there was a massive

3057
01:53:32,790 --> 01:53:31,679
search after people saw a big one and a

3058
01:53:34,709 --> 01:53:32,800
small one

3059
01:53:37,430 --> 01:53:34,719
and at close range

3060
01:53:40,149 --> 01:53:37,440
and they had a search by the area police

3061
01:53:42,070 --> 01:53:40,159
and animal protectors with tranquilizer

3062
01:53:44,149 --> 01:53:42,080
guns and whatever this thing was they

3063
01:53:46,790 --> 01:53:44,159
never found it which is what happens in

3064
01:53:49,589 --> 01:53:46,800
in all the cases i'm aware of but i have

3065
01:53:50,950 --> 01:53:49,599
a very weird case in my astonishing

3066
01:53:53,030 --> 01:53:50,960
encounters book

3067
01:53:54,149 --> 01:53:53,040
and it's one of those cases that again

3068
01:53:55,750 --> 01:53:54,159
suggest

3069
01:53:57,830 --> 01:53:55,760
that these things some of these are

3070
01:54:01,030 --> 01:53:57,840
something other than a flesh and blood

3071
01:54:02,870 --> 01:54:01,040
animal and and this goes back to 1983

3072
01:54:07,189 --> 01:54:02,880
now i'm sorry this actually goes back to

3073
01:54:10,709 --> 01:54:07,199
about 19 i think it was about 1983

3074
01:54:12,550 --> 01:54:10,719
about 1983 also yeah and um

3075
01:54:14,390 --> 01:54:12,560
anyhow this occurred up in the mountains

3076
01:54:16,470 --> 01:54:14,400
of fayette county again which we talked

3077
01:54:18,310 --> 01:54:16,480
about a lot of weird stuff up there

3078
01:54:20,550 --> 01:54:18,320
and this guy was coming home late one

3079
01:54:22,550 --> 01:54:20,560
night his car was overheating when he

3080
01:54:24,229 --> 01:54:22,560
pulled into the driveway and he went

3081
01:54:25,910 --> 01:54:24,239
into the garage to grab a can of

3082
01:54:28,149 --> 01:54:25,920
anti-freeze

3083
01:54:31,189 --> 01:54:28,159
and as he's putting the antifreeze in

3084
01:54:32,950 --> 01:54:31,199
the car he hears his growl

3085
01:54:34,790 --> 01:54:32,960
and didn't pay a lot of attention to it

3086
01:54:37,830 --> 01:54:34,800
he turns around here's this pretty good

3087
01:54:39,030 --> 01:54:37,840
sized black cat health cat about 20 feet

3088
01:54:40,390 --> 01:54:39,040
away

3089
01:54:42,470 --> 01:54:40,400
and he went back to work and didn't

3090
01:54:44,870 --> 01:54:42,480
think much about and a few seconds later

3091
01:54:46,709 --> 01:54:44,880
here's a second growl which seems to be

3092
01:54:49,510 --> 01:54:46,719
a lot louder and deeper and he turns

3093
01:54:52,229 --> 01:54:49,520
around the look now to his amazement

3094
01:54:54,149 --> 01:54:52,239
that big cat has physically grown about

3095
01:54:55,589 --> 01:54:54,159
another foot in size

3096
01:54:57,669 --> 01:54:55,599
and then

3097
01:55:00,310 --> 01:54:57,679
the fella throws the empty anti-freeze

3098
01:55:01,510 --> 01:55:00,320
jug at the animal and the cat growls at

3099
01:55:03,270 --> 01:55:01,520
him fiercely

3100
01:55:04,629 --> 01:55:03,280
like it was going to attack him and he

3101
01:55:06,470 --> 01:55:04,639
said it took two or three steps

3102
01:55:08,310 --> 01:55:06,480
backwards and growled again as a moved

3103
01:55:10,709 --> 01:55:08,320
up illuminated road

3104
01:55:12,149 --> 01:55:10,719
so the guy rather to his uh garage and

3105
01:55:13,990 --> 01:55:12,159
grabs his pistol

3106
01:55:15,750 --> 01:55:14,000
and takes a shot at this thing he said

3107
01:55:18,390 --> 01:55:15,760
next thing he knows as this thing is

3108
01:55:20,470 --> 01:55:18,400
going up the road it now has physically

3109
01:55:22,070 --> 01:55:20,480
changed to the size of what he would

3110
01:55:24,550 --> 01:55:22,080
call a black panther like you'd see in

3111
01:55:27,109 --> 01:55:24,560
the zoo he could see the solid black

3112
01:55:28,950 --> 01:55:27,119
shiny color of the body he said you can

3113
01:55:30,790 --> 01:55:28,960
see the glowing yellow eyes on this

3114
01:55:32,709 --> 01:55:30,800
thing says the body is about two to

3115
01:55:34,550 --> 01:55:32,719
three feet long the tail which was

3116
01:55:37,030 --> 01:55:34,560
swishing around is about as long as the

3117
01:55:39,830 --> 01:55:37,040
bloody and he said as he's watching this

3118
01:55:41,189 --> 01:55:39,840
thing it suddenly vanishes into thin air

3119
01:55:43,030 --> 01:55:41,199
and disappears

3120
01:55:44,790 --> 01:55:43,040
gone

3121
01:55:47,350 --> 01:55:44,800
wow i have never heard of a black cat

3122
01:55:49,109 --> 01:55:47,360
sound sighting that ended like that

3123
01:55:50,310 --> 01:55:49,119
interesting it just vanished or blinked

3124
01:55:51,990 --> 01:55:50,320
out

3125
01:55:54,310 --> 01:55:52,000
well so here's another part of the

3126
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bigfoot equation again you don't hear

3127
01:55:58,070 --> 01:55:55,840
about this very often but there have

3128
01:56:01,589 --> 01:55:58,080
been incidents around the country in

3129
01:56:04,070 --> 01:56:01,599
pennsylvania where bigfoot has been seen

3130
01:56:05,669 --> 01:56:04,080
accompanying another cryptid

3131
01:56:07,830 --> 01:56:05,679
i i've heard reports around the country

3132
01:56:09,430 --> 01:56:07,840
where bigfoot has been seen with a black

3133
01:56:12,070 --> 01:56:09,440
panther and then some of the older books

3134
01:56:13,830 --> 01:56:12,080
of the 70s talked about it

3135
01:56:15,990 --> 01:56:13,840
i remember a guy telling me about seeing

3136
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a bigfoot on the side of a road with a a

3137
01:56:19,750 --> 01:56:18,159
strange looking creature with glowing

3138
01:56:22,149 --> 01:56:19,760
eyes next to it something he could

3139
01:56:24,950 --> 01:56:22,159
hardly even explain to me what it was

3140
01:56:26,550 --> 01:56:24,960
but something i found years ago is again

3141
01:56:29,109 --> 01:56:26,560
sometimes with these cases where

3142
01:56:31,669 --> 01:56:29,119
phenomena seems descent on certain

3143
01:56:34,229 --> 01:56:31,679
locations certain families where you've

3144
01:56:36,149 --> 01:56:34,239
got the paranormal you've got strange

3145
01:56:38,070 --> 01:56:36,159
footprints you've got screams and cries

3146
01:56:39,510 --> 01:56:38,080
and strange lights and objects and

3147
01:56:41,510 --> 01:56:39,520
strange animals

3148
01:56:42,950 --> 01:56:41,520
sometimes they'll report both bigfoot

3149
01:56:45,109 --> 01:56:42,960
and black panther sightings and

3150
01:56:46,709 --> 01:56:45,119
sometimes and i remember one back in the

3151
01:56:50,070 --> 01:56:46,719
80s in west warren county where there

3152
01:56:51,750 --> 01:56:50,080
was a a very long outbreak of ufos and

3153
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bigfoot sightings

3154
01:56:55,910 --> 01:56:53,440
many people were seeing around the area

3155
01:56:57,669 --> 01:56:55,920
a lot of strange things at the same time

3156
01:56:59,350 --> 01:56:57,679
there was an outbreak of black black

3157
01:57:00,390 --> 01:56:59,360
panther societies in the area by other

3158
01:57:03,270 --> 01:57:00,400
people

3159
01:57:05,589 --> 01:57:03,280
so once again this is a lot more complex

3160
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than any of us know about

3161
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we're going to want to get more

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3271
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get to goberky.com or call

3272
02:01:55,270 --> 02:01:52,790
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3273
02:01:58,790 --> 02:01:55,280
comment or question about the paracast

3274
02:02:02,070 --> 02:01:58,800
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3275
02:02:03,910 --> 02:02:02,080
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3276
02:02:06,310 --> 02:02:03,920
and don't forget to visit our famous

3277
02:02:10,390 --> 02:02:06,320
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3278
02:02:14,310 --> 02:02:12,550
now i'm going to throw an oddball

3279
02:02:15,990 --> 02:02:14,320
question out there of not so oddball

3280
02:02:17,510 --> 02:02:16,000
which is stan gordon

3281
02:02:18,790 --> 02:02:17,520
knowing all these

3282
02:02:21,830 --> 02:02:18,800
various

3283
02:02:24,310 --> 02:02:21,840
expanded conditions of ufo and other

3284
02:02:26,310 --> 02:02:24,320
paranormal cases how

3285
02:02:28,149 --> 02:02:26,320
the heck do we persuade mainstream

3286
02:02:29,030 --> 02:02:28,159
science to look at it

3287
02:02:31,350 --> 02:02:29,040
well

3288
02:02:33,109 --> 02:02:31,360
it's a very difficult thing because you

3289
02:02:35,109 --> 02:02:33,119
know a lot of the scientific people are

3290
02:02:37,270 --> 02:02:35,119
very skeptical i can tell you just from

3291
02:02:38,709 --> 02:02:37,280
experience though how i dealt with it

3292
02:02:40,870 --> 02:02:38,719
because you know when i started this

3293
02:02:43,669 --> 02:02:40,880
back in 65 started going out in the

3294
02:02:45,430 --> 02:02:43,679
field and then in 69 i decided to set up

3295
02:02:47,350 --> 02:02:45,440
my own hotline for the public report

3296
02:02:48,550 --> 02:02:47,360
sightings but what happened at that

3297
02:02:51,350 --> 02:02:48,560
point was

3298
02:02:53,430 --> 02:02:51,360
as people began to hear about my hotline

3299
02:02:56,790 --> 02:02:53,440
i was getting calls day and night not

3300
02:02:59,030 --> 02:02:56,800
just on ufos but anything unusual

3301
02:03:01,830 --> 02:02:59,040
haunted houses flying saucers strange

3302
02:03:03,350 --> 02:03:01,840
creatures the fuzz ringing off the hook

3303
02:03:06,709 --> 02:03:03,360
it became apparent that i couldn't

3304
02:03:08,629 --> 02:03:06,719
handle this on my own so it was my goal

3305
02:03:09,510 --> 02:03:08,639
to set up a group of volunteer research

3306
02:03:10,950 --> 02:03:09,520
people

3307
02:03:12,790 --> 02:03:10,960
who would go out and respond to these

3308
02:03:15,109 --> 02:03:12,800
cases hopefully very quickly so that's

3309
02:03:17,030 --> 02:03:15,119
what i did we did this around our

3310
02:03:19,270 --> 02:03:17,040
regular full-time jobs

3311
02:03:20,629 --> 02:03:19,280
and in 1970 i founded the first of three

3312
02:03:22,550 --> 02:03:20,639
groups that was a westmoreland county

3313
02:03:25,270 --> 02:03:22,560
ufo study group

3314
02:03:26,629 --> 02:03:25,280
and it was mainly scientists engineers

3315
02:03:28,229 --> 02:03:26,639
technicians

3316
02:03:29,270 --> 02:03:28,239
all kind of specialists were mainly

3317
02:03:31,510 --> 02:03:29,280
involved

3318
02:03:33,589 --> 02:03:31,520
i had uh police officers i had former

3319
02:03:35,270 --> 02:03:33,599
military intelligence people i had all

3320
02:03:36,149 --> 02:03:35,280
kind of people out there

3321
02:03:37,750 --> 02:03:36,159
who

3322
02:03:39,910 --> 02:03:37,760
were getting involved in this and it was

3323
02:03:42,470 --> 02:03:39,920
amazing because there were scientists

3324
02:03:44,790 --> 02:03:42,480
from the pittsburgh from westinghouse

3325
02:03:47,430 --> 02:03:44,800
from golf research from alcoa from the

3326
02:03:49,350 --> 02:03:47,440
colleges and universities and dr heineck

3327
02:03:51,030 --> 02:03:49,360
went across at the invisible college

3328
02:03:53,109 --> 02:03:51,040
because a high percentage of people

3329
02:03:55,430 --> 02:03:53,119
worked with me did it anonymously

3330
02:03:57,430 --> 02:03:55,440
because their positions and i can tell

3331
02:03:59,270 --> 02:03:57,440
you a lot of these folks

3332
02:04:01,030 --> 02:03:59,280
gradual went out in the field with me

3333
02:04:03,270 --> 02:04:01,040
and some spent years out there and some

3334
02:04:05,109 --> 02:04:03,280
i'm still in touch with today who came

3335
02:04:07,430 --> 02:04:05,119
in very skeptically

3336
02:04:09,510 --> 02:04:07,440
but over a period of time as they began

3337
02:04:11,189 --> 02:04:09,520
to do their first-hand investigation

3338
02:04:13,109 --> 02:04:11,199
they saw the evidence

3339
02:04:15,589 --> 02:04:13,119
they saw the patterns they interviewed

3340
02:04:17,270 --> 02:04:15,599
the witnesses they began to see over a

3341
02:04:19,990 --> 02:04:17,280
long period of time from widespread

3342
02:04:21,990 --> 02:04:20,000
areas that something was taking place

3343
02:04:23,430 --> 02:04:22,000
something was happening and they began

3344
02:04:24,870 --> 02:04:23,440
to realize that you know what there's

3345
02:04:26,550 --> 02:04:24,880
something going on here we don't have an

3346
02:04:27,510 --> 02:04:26,560
explanation for

3347
02:04:28,950 --> 02:04:27,520
and

3348
02:04:30,629 --> 02:04:28,960
i think the only way you get these

3349
02:04:32,470 --> 02:04:30,639
people involved is for them to get

3350
02:04:34,709 --> 02:04:32,480
directly involved themselves in the

3351
02:04:37,189 --> 02:04:34,719
research investigation because

3352
02:04:39,669 --> 02:04:37,199
just reading books reading what's on the

3353
02:04:41,910 --> 02:04:39,679
internet it's not going to convince any

3354
02:04:44,310 --> 02:04:41,920
of these people because you can't always

3355
02:04:45,669 --> 02:04:44,320
go by what you read you guys really need

3356
02:04:47,750 --> 02:04:45,679
first-hand

3357
02:04:49,510 --> 02:04:47,760
experience out in the field

3358
02:04:50,310 --> 02:04:49,520
to realize that there's something out

3359
02:04:51,990 --> 02:04:50,320
there

3360
02:04:54,070 --> 02:04:52,000
and that's the kind of research that

3361
02:04:56,310 --> 02:04:54,080
needs to be done yeah which kind of

3362
02:04:58,470 --> 02:04:56,320
leads me to a question about being

3363
02:05:00,709 --> 02:04:58,480
somebody with such a um i'd say a

3364
02:05:03,990 --> 02:05:00,719
distinguished history and background

3365
02:05:05,350 --> 02:05:04,000
in in many many decades of background in

3366
02:05:07,669 --> 02:05:05,360
investigating and researching these

3367
02:05:09,510 --> 02:05:07,679
subjects what do we need to do to take

3368
02:05:11,189 --> 02:05:09,520
this thing forward and you know i i

3369
02:05:13,350 --> 02:05:11,199
always get the feeling that we're we're

3370
02:05:16,390 --> 02:05:13,360
making strides forward but they're like

3371
02:05:17,910 --> 02:05:16,400
just minuscule little millimeters at a

3372
02:05:20,390 --> 02:05:17,920
time instead of actually making real

3373
02:05:23,350 --> 02:05:20,400
strides forward what do you think needs

3374
02:05:25,830 --> 02:05:23,360
to be done in order for us to uh to

3375
02:05:28,229 --> 02:05:25,840
get to that next level of understanding

3376
02:05:29,830 --> 02:05:28,239
here well you know it's unfortunate that

3377
02:05:31,189 --> 02:05:29,840
there's there's a lot more people

3378
02:05:33,109 --> 02:05:31,199
involved today

3379
02:05:34,470 --> 02:05:33,119
but you know from what i've seen and

3380
02:05:35,189 --> 02:05:34,480
i've talked to other researchers about

3381
02:05:36,870 --> 02:05:35,199
this

3382
02:05:38,470 --> 02:05:36,880
it seems like there was a lot more

3383
02:05:41,189 --> 02:05:38,480
serious scientific research and

3384
02:05:43,510 --> 02:05:41,199
investigation being done years ago back

3385
02:05:45,750 --> 02:05:43,520
in the maybe late 50s 70s and 80s than

3386
02:05:47,510 --> 02:05:45,760
there is today yeah you know that's just

3387
02:05:49,350 --> 02:05:47,520
very unfortunate the problem is

3388
02:05:50,550 --> 02:05:49,360
everybody you know has their own family

3389
02:05:53,109 --> 02:05:50,560
they have their own jobs there's

3390
02:05:55,430 --> 02:05:53,119
basically no funding it's a very big

3391
02:05:57,109 --> 02:05:55,440
dilemma to get people involved in this

3392
02:05:58,790 --> 02:05:57,119
and i know people start in it for a

3393
02:06:00,870 --> 02:05:58,800
short time and then they're done because

3394
02:06:03,990 --> 02:06:00,880
so many things turn up and it it's a

3395
02:06:05,830 --> 02:06:04,000
very hard thing to deal with this

3396
02:06:08,870 --> 02:06:05,840
basically full time i mean i worked a

3397
02:06:10,470 --> 02:06:08,880
full-time job and did this full-time

3398
02:06:13,270 --> 02:06:10,480
it's something that's not easy to do for

3399
02:06:14,950 --> 02:06:13,280
most people which is one reason why it's

3400
02:06:17,189 --> 02:06:14,960
very hard to get people off the field to

3401
02:06:19,589 --> 02:06:17,199
do really good detailed investigation

3402
02:06:21,109 --> 02:06:19,599
yeah practically impossible it's now the

3403
02:06:22,629 --> 02:06:21,119
weekend warrior

3404
02:06:25,350 --> 02:06:22,639
uh syndrome especially in the haunted

3405
02:06:28,070 --> 02:06:25,360
side investigations um you're seeing a

3406
02:06:29,430 --> 02:06:28,080
lot of part-time aspiring amateurs who

3407
02:06:32,149 --> 02:06:29,440
are going off

3408
02:06:34,870 --> 02:06:32,159
sort of basing their level of education

3409
02:06:37,270 --> 02:06:34,880
and and potential experience on tv shows

3410
02:06:39,750 --> 02:06:37,280
that don't accurately reflect the real

3411
02:06:41,430 --> 02:06:39,760
paradigm as it exists in the field i

3412
02:06:43,109 --> 02:06:41,440
think people are getting the wrong ideas

3413
02:06:44,870 --> 02:06:43,119
and and they're becoming actually i

3414
02:06:46,229 --> 02:06:44,880
think more of a hindrance to proper

3415
02:06:49,189 --> 02:06:46,239
investigation

3416
02:06:51,669 --> 02:06:49,199
because how many really good solid cases

3417
02:06:54,069 --> 02:06:51,679
are we losing because they're being uh

3418
02:06:55,270 --> 02:06:54,079
mismanaged by amateur investigators i

3419
02:06:56,550 --> 02:06:55,280
think it's going to become more and more

3420
02:06:58,310 --> 02:06:56,560
of a problem

3421
02:07:00,229 --> 02:06:58,320
well all we're going to do is is hope

3422
02:07:02,950 --> 02:07:00,239
that you know we get some significant

3423
02:07:05,109 --> 02:07:02,960
cases down the road that some very good

3424
02:07:06,550 --> 02:07:05,119
researchers will get to where we can

3425
02:07:09,109 --> 02:07:06,560
document some good physical evidence

3426
02:07:10,470 --> 02:07:09,119
they have analyzed and go from there and

3427
02:07:12,310 --> 02:07:10,480
yeah i wanted to bring something up to

3428
02:07:14,790 --> 02:07:12,320
earlier i believe one of your callers

3429
02:07:16,550 --> 02:07:14,800
had a question about the mothman type

3430
02:07:19,030 --> 02:07:16,560
thing and i kind of got off to the side

3431
02:07:21,430 --> 02:07:19,040
about the variations of the sun the

3432
02:07:24,069 --> 02:07:21,440
thunderbird reports but another thing

3433
02:07:26,390 --> 02:07:24,079
that we're hearing about on occasion are

3434
02:07:27,990 --> 02:07:26,400
these winged humanoid sightings yeah

3435
02:07:30,390 --> 02:07:28,000
have you any of those chris down your

3436
02:07:33,030 --> 02:07:30,400
area i have uh we had a whole flurry of

3437
02:07:35,350 --> 02:07:33,040
them over a three year period 19 at last

3438
02:07:37,109 --> 02:07:35,360
count all very similar which i've

3439
02:07:39,030 --> 02:07:37,119
described a number of times here on the

3440
02:07:41,510 --> 02:07:39,040
show chase augers early in the morning

3441
02:07:44,149 --> 02:07:41,520
at sunrise decided by the the local

3442
02:07:45,830 --> 02:07:44,159
garbage man uh the small town on the uh

3443
02:07:48,550 --> 02:07:45,840
the west side of the valley del norte

3444
02:07:52,629 --> 02:07:48,560
right on the rio grande

3445
02:07:54,550 --> 02:07:52,639
yeah the local postman had a sighting a

3446
02:07:55,830 --> 02:07:54,560
couple of police officers had sightings

3447
02:07:57,750 --> 02:07:55,840
one

3448
02:07:58,790 --> 02:07:57,760
allegedly now i haven't really

3449
02:08:01,430 --> 02:07:58,800
gotten

3450
02:08:03,669 --> 02:08:01,440
the total story on this but one of them

3451
02:08:05,350 --> 02:08:03,679
actually ended up committing suicide i'm

3452
02:08:07,510 --> 02:08:05,360
not sure if it was

3453
02:08:10,069 --> 02:08:07,520
as a result of his sighting which i i

3454
02:08:12,069 --> 02:08:10,079
doubt it was some time later but

3455
02:08:13,750 --> 02:08:12,079
but there was a whole flurry of these

3456
02:08:16,310 --> 02:08:13,760
sightings including

3457
02:08:17,589 --> 02:08:16,320
uh the first one was seen at the great

3458
02:08:20,390 --> 02:08:17,599
sand dunes

3459
02:08:23,830 --> 02:08:20,400
on our san luis valley uh camera project

3460
02:08:25,510 --> 02:08:23,840
uh camera image our chief engineer had

3461
02:08:26,629 --> 02:08:25,520
just fired up the camera for the first

3462
02:08:28,709 --> 02:08:26,639
time

3463
02:08:30,550 --> 02:08:28,719
and was trying to

3464
02:08:32,069 --> 02:08:30,560
zoom in on the great sand dunes to see

3465
02:08:34,550 --> 02:08:32,079
how good the resolution was on the

3466
02:08:36,470 --> 02:08:34,560
camera at 38 times optical zoom and he

3467
02:08:38,870 --> 02:08:36,480
saw two flying humanoids going one after

3468
02:08:40,950 --> 02:08:38,880
another right across the dune field he

3469
02:08:42,790 --> 02:08:40,960
was about ready to bail from the project

3470
02:08:44,870 --> 02:08:42,800
uh prior to this he was gonna get the

3471
02:08:46,629 --> 02:08:44,880
the camera set up and get it all uh

3472
02:08:47,990 --> 02:08:46,639
functioning and and uh and everything

3473
02:08:49,510 --> 02:08:48,000
and then he was gonna kind of take a

3474
02:08:52,629 --> 02:08:49,520
hiatus but boy

3475
02:08:55,189 --> 02:08:52,639
he became reinvigorated and has been a

3476
02:08:57,109 --> 02:08:55,199
you know as a steadfast

3477
02:09:01,109 --> 02:08:57,119
supporter and worker in the program ever

3478
02:09:05,189 --> 02:09:02,870
did you have any of the cases where they

3479
02:09:05,990 --> 02:09:05,199
were not in the air but on the ground

3480
02:09:10,629 --> 02:09:06,000
yes

3481
02:09:13,189 --> 02:09:10,639
sheriff's deputy the rio grande

3482
02:09:16,390 --> 02:09:13,199
sheriff's deputy was headed up a a dirt

3483
02:09:18,149 --> 02:09:16,400
road above town and uh he came around

3484
02:09:20,149 --> 02:09:18,159
the corner and of course it was right

3485
02:09:22,550 --> 02:09:20,159
after he had passed the

3486
02:09:24,229 --> 02:09:22,560
cemetery of course

3487
02:09:26,310 --> 02:09:24,239
just funny how these things work

3488
02:09:28,470 --> 02:09:26,320
sometimes and he came around the corner

3489
02:09:31,189 --> 02:09:28,480
and his his headlights

3490
02:09:33,030 --> 02:09:31,199
showed what appeared to be a hooded

3491
02:09:34,709 --> 02:09:33,040
cloaked figure

3492
02:09:37,510 --> 02:09:34,719
on the ground

3493
02:09:39,350 --> 02:09:37,520
kind of huddled over a roadkill

3494
02:09:41,109 --> 02:09:39,360
somebody had hit a deer and it had gone

3495
02:09:43,830 --> 02:09:41,119
to the side of the road and when his

3496
02:09:46,149 --> 02:09:43,840
lights hit it it turned around and

3497
02:09:47,830 --> 02:09:46,159
it was like something out of a vampire

3498
02:09:50,229 --> 02:09:47,840
movie it had blood going down its face

3499
02:09:52,390 --> 02:09:50,239
and it was there and it it took off and

3500
02:09:55,589 --> 02:09:52,400
he was so freaked out he immediately did

3501
02:09:57,910 --> 02:09:55,599
a u-turn and started his head you know

3502
02:09:59,350 --> 02:09:57,920
hauling ass back down the hill and he

3503
02:10:01,030 --> 02:09:59,360
looked in his rear-view mirror and he

3504
02:10:03,750 --> 02:10:01,040
could see the thing trying to land on

3505
02:10:05,109 --> 02:10:03,760
his car in his rear view mirror and it

3506
02:10:07,510 --> 02:10:05,119
totally freaked him out and i think this

3507
02:10:09,510 --> 02:10:07,520
was the officer that ended up

3508
02:10:10,790 --> 02:10:09,520
uh i'd have to check my notes so don't

3509
02:10:12,629 --> 02:10:10,800
quote me on this but this may have been

3510
02:10:14,229 --> 02:10:12,639
the officer that ended up

3511
02:10:15,270 --> 02:10:14,239
at the end of a rope uh some months

3512
02:10:16,310 --> 02:10:15,280
later

3513
02:10:18,390 --> 02:10:16,320
oh my

3514
02:10:20,069 --> 02:10:18,400
well we have what we call the butler

3515
02:10:22,069 --> 02:10:20,079
gargoyle up here which has been very

3516
02:10:24,470 --> 02:10:22,079
interesting the last few years let's

3517
02:10:26,229 --> 02:10:24,480
save that for our next segment okay

3518
02:10:28,149 --> 02:10:26,239
let's hear about that gargoyle in our

3519
02:10:37,990 --> 02:10:28,159
next segment we have stan gorton and

3520
02:10:38,000 --> 02:10:42,709
thank you for listening to gcn

3521
02:10:45,910 --> 02:10:43,550
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3522
02:10:47,270 --> 02:10:45,920
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3523
02:10:49,189 --> 02:10:47,280
[Music]

3524
02:10:50,790 --> 02:10:49,199
in these uncertain times it makes sense

3525
02:10:52,709 --> 02:10:50,800
to have a sustainable backup method to

3526
02:10:54,870 --> 02:10:52,719
cook food and boil water if your current

3527
02:10:56,629 --> 02:10:54,880
plan includes using a fuel burning stove

3528
02:10:58,629 --> 02:10:56,639
or cooking over an open fire then

3529
02:11:00,470 --> 02:10:58,639
there's a much better way the minuteman

3530
02:11:02,470 --> 02:11:00,480
rocket stove is a biomass burning

3531
02:11:04,470 --> 02:11:02,480
cooking stove that only requires small

3532
02:11:06,310 --> 02:11:04,480
quantities of sticks and twigs for fuel

3533
02:11:07,910 --> 02:11:06,320
the minuteman stove is easy to use

3534
02:11:09,910 --> 02:11:07,920
smokeless portable powerful and

3535
02:11:11,750 --> 02:11:09,920
sustainable for the finest and survival

3536
02:11:13,709 --> 02:11:11,760
cooking stoves and fire starters made

3537
02:11:15,109 --> 02:11:13,719
right here in the usa go to

3538
02:11:17,270 --> 02:11:15,119
minutemanstove.com that's

3539
02:11:20,470 --> 02:11:17,280
minutemanstove.com

3540
02:11:22,390 --> 02:11:20,480
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gold standard of paranormal radio it's

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such an easy show for me to do this week

3639
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because all i have to do is let stan

3640
02:15:11,510 --> 02:15:09,679
gordon tell his stories of all these

3641
02:15:14,069 --> 02:15:11,520
amazing reports of

3642
02:15:17,030 --> 02:15:14,079
anomalous encounters and chris has a few

3643
02:15:18,790 --> 02:15:17,040
i sit back and enjoy it the gargoyle you

3644
02:15:22,229 --> 02:15:18,800
mentioned at the end of our previous

3645
02:15:23,669 --> 02:15:22,239
segment stan gordon can you tell me more

3646
02:15:25,830 --> 02:15:23,679
yeah this occurred um north of

3647
02:15:27,750 --> 02:15:25,840
pittsburgh and butler county a lot of

3648
02:15:29,350 --> 02:15:27,760
history i've been up there since the 60s

3649
02:15:31,910 --> 02:15:29,360
investigating phenomenon in butler

3650
02:15:34,149 --> 02:15:31,920
county a lot of ufos cryptis all kind of

3651
02:15:36,390 --> 02:15:34,159
weird stuff up in that area it seems to

3652
02:15:38,149 --> 02:15:36,400
never end in pennsylvania but this

3653
02:15:39,589 --> 02:15:38,159
occurred march 18th during the early

3654
02:15:42,310 --> 02:15:39,599
morning hours

3655
02:15:44,149 --> 02:15:42,320
this fellow who i've got to know quite

3656
02:15:45,589 --> 02:15:44,159
well i've interviewed him in person

3657
02:15:48,069 --> 02:15:45,599
numerous times

3658
02:15:50,790 --> 02:15:48,079
very credible businessman

3659
02:15:52,149 --> 02:15:50,800
so what has become known as the butler

3660
02:15:55,109 --> 02:15:52,159
gargoyle

3661
02:15:58,229 --> 02:15:55,119
occurred on march 18th of 2011.

3662
02:15:59,990 --> 02:15:58,239
and the witness um i've had a chance to

3663
02:16:02,390 --> 02:16:00,000
interview him numerous times meet him in

3664
02:16:04,790 --> 02:16:02,400
person meet his family

3665
02:16:06,550 --> 02:16:04,800
consider him very very credible witness

3666
02:16:08,149 --> 02:16:06,560
this was during the early morning hours

3667
02:16:09,510 --> 02:16:08,159
and this took place north of pittsburgh

3668
02:16:10,950 --> 02:16:09,520
in butler county

3669
02:16:13,990 --> 02:16:10,960
between

3670
02:16:15,430 --> 02:16:14,000
the towns of court and east brady

3671
02:16:17,350 --> 02:16:15,440
and this fella

3672
02:16:20,229 --> 02:16:17,360
uh he's going down the road it's late at

3673
02:16:22,069 --> 02:16:20,239
night and his headlights hit something

3674
02:16:23,430 --> 02:16:22,079
on the right side of the road in the

3675
02:16:25,350 --> 02:16:23,440
grass area

3676
02:16:28,470 --> 02:16:25,360
and his first thought was it's probably

3677
02:16:30,870 --> 02:16:28,480
a deer and he he's about 50 yards away

3678
02:16:33,030 --> 02:16:30,880
at that point i believe and he steps on

3679
02:16:34,070 --> 02:16:33,040
the gas to move a little closer and as

3680
02:16:37,190 --> 02:16:34,080
he does

3681
02:16:39,830 --> 02:16:37,200
he sees his very tall muscular creature

3682
02:16:41,830 --> 02:16:39,840
rise from the ground in front of him

3683
02:16:43,990 --> 02:16:41,840
it takes three big

3684
02:16:45,910 --> 02:16:44,000
steps across the road

3685
02:16:48,230 --> 02:16:45,920
three big long steps and continues off

3686
02:16:50,870 --> 02:16:48,240
into the woods it had run right in front

3687
02:16:52,389 --> 02:16:50,880
of a great big yellow construction sign

3688
02:16:53,589 --> 02:16:52,399
and he said what he saw in the

3689
02:16:55,990 --> 02:16:53,599
headlights

3690
02:16:57,509 --> 02:16:56,000
was that this thing was about at least

3691
02:16:59,509 --> 02:16:57,519
eight feet tall

3692
02:17:01,669 --> 02:16:59,519
and he said to me he said look i hear

3693
02:17:04,469 --> 02:17:01,679
stories about bigfoot he said this thing

3694
02:17:07,030 --> 02:17:04,479
was not a bigfoot he said this thing had

3695
02:17:09,429 --> 02:17:07,040
smooth leather-like skin that was either

3696
02:17:11,750 --> 02:17:09,439
a dark tan or light brown in color

3697
02:17:13,750 --> 02:17:11,760
and he went on to describe that the head

3698
02:17:16,790 --> 02:17:13,760
was more like an aerodynamic dynamic

3699
02:17:18,709 --> 02:17:16,800
helmet the eyes appear to

3700
02:17:20,230 --> 02:17:18,719
come back not clear of the fine but

3701
02:17:23,110 --> 02:17:20,240
thought that they may be like pointed in

3702
02:17:25,030 --> 02:17:23,120
the corner and the ears on the left side

3703
02:17:27,030 --> 02:17:25,040
you can see it was long and flat came up

3704
02:17:29,750 --> 02:17:27,040
and back and pointed backwards like a

3705
02:17:31,990 --> 02:17:29,760
flap he said the arms of the creature

3706
02:17:34,230 --> 02:17:32,000
were very muscular and a little longer

3707
02:17:36,309 --> 02:17:34,240
than that of a human the hands out had

3708
02:17:37,990 --> 02:17:36,319
claws on them and he said there was one

3709
02:17:40,629 --> 02:17:38,000
physical trait that really stood out and

3710
02:17:42,389 --> 02:17:40,639
that was the legs he said the legs were

3711
02:17:44,709 --> 02:17:42,399
extremely muscular

3712
02:17:46,549 --> 02:17:44,719
but they did not move like human-like

3713
02:17:47,669 --> 02:17:46,559
legs but they looked like they bent

3714
02:17:49,669 --> 02:17:47,679
backwards

3715
02:17:52,469 --> 02:17:49,679
and he said what really

3716
02:17:54,950 --> 02:17:52,479
surprised him was that he saw where it

3717
02:17:57,190 --> 02:17:54,960
appeared to be wings on its back that

3718
02:17:59,190 --> 02:17:57,200
were tucked into its body and the

3719
02:18:00,389 --> 02:17:59,200
wingtips extended towards the side of

3720
02:18:02,790 --> 02:18:00,399
the head

3721
02:18:04,629 --> 02:18:02,800
he noticed no sound or smell at the time

3722
02:18:06,549 --> 02:18:04,639
that he went back the next day to look

3723
02:18:08,469 --> 02:18:06,559
over the area and he measured that

3724
02:18:11,030 --> 02:18:08,479
yellow construction sign

3725
02:18:13,110 --> 02:18:11,040
and it was just a little over um

3726
02:18:14,709 --> 02:18:13,120
eight feet uh and i think it was around

3727
02:18:16,870 --> 02:18:14,719
eight feet tall so the thing was just a

3728
02:18:19,429 --> 02:18:16,880
little bit taller than that sign

3729
02:18:21,190 --> 02:18:19,439
now in the days to follow

3730
02:18:23,270 --> 02:18:21,200
up in that same area you have a local

3731
02:18:24,549 --> 02:18:23,280
group called boru it's about the

3732
02:18:26,709 --> 02:18:24,559
organization for research the

3733
02:18:29,429 --> 02:18:26,719
unexplained they receive several

3734
02:18:31,270 --> 02:18:29,439
different reports from different people

3735
02:18:34,230 --> 02:18:31,280
seeing the same thing

3736
02:18:35,830 --> 02:18:34,240
and i've i've heard unconfirmed reports

3737
02:18:37,669 --> 02:18:35,840
that supposedly something similar has

3738
02:18:40,070 --> 02:18:37,679
been seen up in that area even more

3739
02:18:42,389 --> 02:18:40,080
recently but i can't confirm that well

3740
02:18:44,309 --> 02:18:42,399
it reminds me of what's that creature uh

3741
02:18:46,950 --> 02:18:44,319
i'm trying to remember the movie that it

3742
02:18:48,389 --> 02:18:46,960
it walks around but it's it's knees bend

3743
02:18:50,150 --> 02:18:48,399
backwards

3744
02:18:51,030 --> 02:18:50,160
yeah it's like in the tip of my tongue

3745
02:18:52,389 --> 02:18:51,040
i'm trying to remember what it was

3746
02:18:54,469 --> 02:18:52,399
called from years ago

3747
02:18:56,309 --> 02:18:54,479
yeah yeah that's that's that would be

3748
02:18:57,190 --> 02:18:56,319
disconcerting to see something like that

3749
02:18:59,349 --> 02:18:57,200
i think

3750
02:19:01,110 --> 02:18:59,359
yeah i've heard that mentioned very

3751
02:19:03,030 --> 02:19:01,120
rarely but

3752
02:19:04,950 --> 02:19:03,040
it's something that that witness was

3753
02:19:07,270 --> 02:19:04,960
very very much

3754
02:19:09,429 --> 02:19:07,280
wanted to make sure we knew about that

3755
02:19:12,150 --> 02:19:09,439
well it would sure be neat to get uh

3756
02:19:14,549 --> 02:19:12,160
mark d'antonio and douglas trumbull

3757
02:19:17,110 --> 02:19:14,559
to set up their uh their uh

3758
02:19:19,429 --> 02:19:17,120
ufo talk program down there

3759
02:19:21,030 --> 02:19:19,439
uh by you at least get something set up

3760
02:19:22,870 --> 02:19:21,040
in your area there

3761
02:19:24,790 --> 02:19:22,880
because it seems like your your activity

3762
02:19:27,830 --> 02:19:24,800
just has been burbling along

3763
02:19:29,349 --> 02:19:27,840
pretty non-stop now uh continuously for

3764
02:19:30,469 --> 02:19:29,359
for quite some time

3765
02:19:32,070 --> 02:19:30,479
i think uh

3766
02:19:33,910 --> 02:19:32,080
something a couple of those systems

3767
02:19:36,709 --> 02:19:33,920
there in your area three may be

3768
02:19:38,549 --> 02:19:36,719
triangulated up on the uh on that ridge

3769
02:19:40,389 --> 02:19:38,559
um and then of course

3770
02:19:43,110 --> 02:19:40,399
putting some down by white sands putting

3771
02:19:45,270 --> 02:19:43,120
some uh in the san luis valley some out

3772
02:19:47,589 --> 02:19:45,280
in uh possibly out in the desert around

3773
02:19:48,950 --> 02:19:47,599
joshua tree there's other places um and

3774
02:19:50,469 --> 02:19:48,960
we've got to we've got to start really

3775
02:19:52,389 --> 02:19:50,479
getting proactive on this stuff and

3776
02:19:55,750 --> 02:19:52,399
start start really thinking about ways

3777
02:19:57,990 --> 02:19:55,760
to to gather good quality physical uh

3778
02:19:58,870 --> 02:19:58,000
data that we can then

3779
02:20:00,630 --> 02:19:58,880
um

3780
02:20:02,389 --> 02:20:00,640
you know try to pull this whole thing

3781
02:20:04,070 --> 02:20:02,399
forward

3782
02:20:06,790 --> 02:20:04,080
well you know over the years i've heard

3783
02:20:08,309 --> 02:20:06,800
of some similar projects where i know

3784
02:20:10,150 --> 02:20:08,319
technicians of people were building

3785
02:20:11,190 --> 02:20:10,160
various type of really good detection

3786
02:20:13,030 --> 02:20:11,200
equipment

3787
02:20:15,270 --> 02:20:13,040
and i know and i just talked to a

3788
02:20:17,590 --> 02:20:15,280
researcher today who who's been involved

3789
02:20:19,030 --> 02:20:17,600
in this for years and very serious study

3790
02:20:20,870 --> 02:20:19,040
and i remember him telling me earlier

3791
02:20:22,550 --> 02:20:20,880
today how they've been doing this

3792
02:20:24,630 --> 02:20:22,560
project for years and years but how it

3793
02:20:26,790 --> 02:20:24,640
had slowed down because so few people

3794
02:20:28,870 --> 02:20:26,800
wanted to stay involved you know there's

3795
02:20:30,630 --> 02:20:28,880
very little funding for it and it's just

3796
02:20:32,550 --> 02:20:30,640
a problem you keep constantly running

3797
02:20:34,710 --> 02:20:32,560
into

3798
02:20:36,469 --> 02:20:34,720
yeah well you know years ago funding

3799
02:20:38,870 --> 02:20:36,479
obviously was a real issue

3800
02:20:41,110 --> 02:20:38,880
because the level of technology had not

3801
02:20:43,110 --> 02:20:41,120
gotten to a point where the cost points

3802
02:20:44,469 --> 02:20:43,120
you know were made it feasible to

3803
02:20:45,830 --> 02:20:44,479
actually be able to afford this

3804
02:20:48,150 --> 02:20:45,840
equipment but now

3805
02:20:50,630 --> 02:20:48,160
i mean geez with gopros and other um you

3806
02:20:53,429 --> 02:20:50,640
know smaller cameras and the optics are

3807
02:20:56,150 --> 02:20:53,439
now getting up there and the the 4 000

3808
02:20:58,389 --> 02:20:56,160
lines of resolution and even more 16 000

3809
02:21:01,110 --> 02:20:58,399
lines of resolution we're getting really

3810
02:21:03,590 --> 02:21:01,120
good quality gear at really affordable

3811
02:21:06,230 --> 02:21:03,600
prices so i think at some point we're

3812
02:21:08,630 --> 02:21:06,240
going to get to a critical mass where i

3813
02:21:11,349 --> 02:21:08,640
think the impetus is going to be

3814
02:21:12,950 --> 02:21:11,359
be able to be utilized you know all this

3815
02:21:14,790 --> 02:21:12,960
equipment will be able to be utilized if

3816
02:21:16,309 --> 02:21:14,800
the will is there to do it you got to be

3817
02:21:18,309 --> 02:21:16,319
dedicated you got to be able to put the

3818
02:21:20,230 --> 02:21:18,319
time in you have to want to you know do

3819
02:21:21,830 --> 02:21:20,240
the work it's one thing to get all this

3820
02:21:23,590 --> 02:21:21,840
stuff lined up and set up it's another

3821
02:21:25,990 --> 02:21:23,600
thing that you know to to actually

3822
02:21:28,230 --> 02:21:26,000
manage the gear and manage the results

3823
02:21:29,590 --> 02:21:28,240
and and analyze the the evidence and

3824
02:21:32,630 --> 02:21:29,600
maintain the

3825
02:21:34,870 --> 02:21:32,640
uh the the actual systems uh you know in

3826
02:21:36,870 --> 02:21:34,880
terms of maintenance and and keeping

3827
02:21:38,790 --> 02:21:36,880
them up and running which is often a

3828
02:21:40,389 --> 02:21:38,800
problem the main problem that we found

3829
02:21:42,550 --> 02:21:40,399
with our cameras in the san luis valley

3830
02:21:44,309 --> 02:21:42,560
is is birds

3831
02:21:45,670 --> 02:21:44,319
sitting on them

3832
02:21:47,429 --> 02:21:45,680
so

3833
02:21:49,030 --> 02:21:47,439
we had to come up with a

3834
02:21:52,070 --> 02:21:49,040
because i'll tell you that bird that

3835
02:21:53,429 --> 02:21:52,080
bird do it it it eats in the plastic um

3836
02:21:55,750 --> 02:21:53,439
you've got to get get that stuff off

3837
02:21:57,510 --> 02:21:55,760
there real quick or you ruin your

3838
02:21:59,349 --> 02:21:57,520
environmental enclosure which protects

3839
02:22:01,429 --> 02:21:59,359
you know the camera equipment

3840
02:22:04,070 --> 02:22:01,439
but uh one thing we did find that works

3841
02:22:05,830 --> 02:22:04,080
is putting up a a fake owl that has a

3842
02:22:08,150 --> 02:22:05,840
motion detector and whenever a bird

3843
02:22:09,590 --> 02:22:08,160
would come near it it would it would

3844
02:22:11,429 --> 02:22:09,600
kind of

3845
02:22:12,469 --> 02:22:11,439
twist its head and then and give out a

3846
02:22:15,030 --> 02:22:12,479
hoot

3847
02:22:17,590 --> 02:22:15,040
and then it works it scares the other

3848
02:22:18,870 --> 02:22:17,600
birds away so there's workarounds for

3849
02:22:20,389 --> 02:22:18,880
all that kind of thing but i'll tell you

3850
02:22:22,630 --> 02:22:20,399
once you get involved in a project like

3851
02:22:25,270 --> 02:22:22,640
that you start realizing how many

3852
02:22:27,750 --> 02:22:25,280
hurdles and and just problems and and

3853
02:22:30,469 --> 02:22:27,760
difficulties there are in getting a

3854
02:22:33,190 --> 02:22:30,479
viable system together that isn't being

3855
02:22:35,349 --> 02:22:33,200
funded by uh by the us military

3856
02:22:37,030 --> 02:22:35,359
exactly and that's the truth and i mean

3857
02:22:39,190 --> 02:22:37,040
we've tried small projects over the

3858
02:22:41,190 --> 02:22:39,200
years like that but it's very limited

3859
02:22:43,990 --> 02:22:41,200
and then some of the areas we're talking

3860
02:22:46,389 --> 02:22:44,000
about you're talking very secluded

3861
02:22:48,950 --> 02:22:46,399
hard to gain entrance into some of these

3862
02:22:50,389 --> 02:22:48,960
areas especially in the wintertime so i

3863
02:22:51,670 --> 02:22:50,399
mean that's another part of the problem

3864
02:22:53,830 --> 02:22:51,680
just getting there to maintain the

3865
02:22:56,630 --> 02:22:53,840
equipment

3866
02:22:58,550 --> 02:22:56,640
yeah yeah and that is a real problem

3867
02:23:00,150 --> 02:22:58,560
especially if you're like we are we're

3868
02:23:02,550 --> 02:23:00,160
going to be going up on cell towers and

3869
02:23:04,389 --> 02:23:02,560
stuff and so we're going to be you know

3870
02:23:05,110 --> 02:23:04,399
between 60 and 100 feet off the ground

3871
02:23:06,309 --> 02:23:05,120
and

3872
02:23:08,710 --> 02:23:06,319
you know to get somebody to climb up

3873
02:23:09,990 --> 02:23:08,720
there just to clean the uh

3874
02:23:11,990 --> 02:23:10,000
to clean the

3875
02:23:14,230 --> 02:23:12,000
environmental enclosure um

3876
02:23:16,309 --> 02:23:14,240
you know dust it off or clean it off

3877
02:23:18,150 --> 02:23:16,319
i mean that's a big deal climb up there

3878
02:23:20,630 --> 02:23:18,160
and do that especially you know this

3879
02:23:21,510 --> 02:23:20,640
time of year with snow and icy and stuff

3880
02:23:27,510 --> 02:23:21,520
and

3881
02:23:29,429 --> 02:23:27,520
going to get it done it's just a matter

3882
02:23:32,230 --> 02:23:29,439
of three steps forward four steps back

3883
02:23:34,469 --> 02:23:32,240
sometimes

3884
02:23:36,550 --> 02:23:34,479
you wonder how many organizations care

3885
02:23:38,550 --> 02:23:36,560
about it wasn't

3886
02:23:41,270 --> 02:23:38,560
peter davenport who once gave a

3887
02:23:43,349 --> 02:23:41,280
presentation about a ufo detection

3888
02:23:45,830 --> 02:23:43,359
system in the early 2000s

3889
02:23:49,910 --> 02:23:45,840
early 2000s before move

3890
02:23:54,710 --> 02:23:52,710
so you know anyone's trying to do this

3891
02:23:57,349 --> 02:23:54,720
if they keep doing it we hope it's gonna

3892
02:23:58,950 --> 02:23:57,359
get finished just like your project and

3893
02:24:00,870 --> 02:23:58,960
this year we're supposed to see the

3894
02:24:02,950 --> 02:24:00,880
cubesat go up

3895
02:24:04,630 --> 02:24:02,960
not sure if it's gone up already

3896
02:24:06,309 --> 02:24:04,640
have to talk to the guy about the

3897
02:24:08,630 --> 02:24:06,319
cubesat

3898
02:24:11,270 --> 02:24:08,640
so i have to get in touch with the

3899
02:24:13,270 --> 02:24:11,280
people who did the cubesat project to

3900
02:24:15,750 --> 02:24:13,280
see if that satellite's been launched

3901
02:24:17,349 --> 02:24:15,760
yet i kind of think one lone satellite

3902
02:24:18,710 --> 02:24:17,359
in low earth orbit's not going to

3903
02:24:20,550 --> 02:24:18,720
accomplish much

3904
02:24:23,190 --> 02:24:20,560
but if they get the thing aloft at least

3905
02:24:24,150 --> 02:24:23,200
it's a start one more segment with stan

3906
02:24:25,910 --> 02:24:24,160
gordon

3907
02:24:30,690 --> 02:24:25,920
and gene and chris you're in the

3908
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[Music]

3909
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3910
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3918
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3920
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3922
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3924
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3925
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3926
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3935
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3936
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3937
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3938
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3940
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3941
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3952
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3959
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3960
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3961
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3962
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3963
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3964
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3965
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the irs for over 30 years i've helped

3966
02:27:00,309 --> 02:26:58,960
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3967
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3968
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telling you there's no such thing as a

3969
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3970
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3972
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3973
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3974
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3975
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3976
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3977
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3978
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3979
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3980
02:27:31,830 --> 02:27:29,760
replacement between 2011 and 2016 and

3981
02:27:33,670 --> 02:27:31,840
suffered serious complications including

3982
02:27:35,510 --> 02:27:33,680
dislocation and loosening you may be

3983
02:27:37,429 --> 02:27:35,520
entitled to substantial compensation

3984
02:27:39,750 --> 02:27:37,439
evidence indicates that these devices

3985
02:27:42,150 --> 02:27:39,760
can dislocate and loosen causing severe

3986
02:27:43,990 --> 02:27:42,160
pain and may require additional revision

3987
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3988
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3989
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3990
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3991
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3992
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3993
02:28:00,630 --> 02:27:58,399
2011 and 2016 and suffered serious

3994
02:28:02,070 --> 02:28:00,640
complications including dislocation and

3995
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3996
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3997
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3998
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3999
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4000
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4001
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4002
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4006
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4007
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4008
02:28:36,389 --> 02:28:34,560
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4009
02:28:38,870 --> 02:28:36,399
of your family do you have everything in

4010
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4011
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4013
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4014
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hello this is rosemary ellen guiley and

4015
02:29:00,240 --> 02:28:57,200
you're listening to the paracast the

4016
02:29:17,670 --> 02:29:00,250
gold standard of paranormal radio

4017
02:29:23,030 --> 02:29:20,309
now we do get criticisms for the power

4018
02:29:24,870 --> 02:29:23,040
cast and somebody sent me an email the

4019
02:29:26,550 --> 02:29:24,880
other day chris probably saw it where

4020
02:29:29,190 --> 02:29:26,560
they didn't like our show because we

4021
02:29:30,389 --> 02:29:29,200
didn't get to the point fast enough

4022
02:29:31,349 --> 02:29:30,399
duh

4023
02:29:33,190 --> 02:29:31,359
and

4024
02:29:35,030 --> 02:29:33,200
mention some other show

4025
02:29:37,670 --> 02:29:35,040
that we should emulate

4026
02:29:39,990 --> 02:29:37,680
oh well chris any more questions in our

4027
02:29:41,510 --> 02:29:40,000
final segment well you know we've kind

4028
02:29:43,670 --> 02:29:41,520
of answered i think most of them but

4029
02:29:45,750 --> 02:29:43,680
techno mage has a kind of a general

4030
02:29:47,590 --> 02:29:45,760
question for stan and he's wondering

4031
02:29:49,270 --> 02:29:47,600
if you've investigated any cases

4032
02:29:51,590 --> 02:29:49,280
recently stan that have caused you to

4033
02:29:53,830 --> 02:29:51,600
change your fundamental outlook on the

4034
02:29:55,270 --> 02:29:53,840
nature of the phenomena any cases that

4035
02:29:56,630 --> 02:29:55,280
have been totally

4036
02:29:58,469 --> 02:29:56,640
paradigm shifting in your neck of the

4037
02:30:00,230 --> 02:29:58,479
woods there recently well i can't say it

4038
02:30:03,270 --> 02:30:00,240
depends what you say in the last few

4039
02:30:06,070 --> 02:30:03,280
years i continue to have some extremely

4040
02:30:07,030 --> 02:30:06,080
strange reports come in that continue

4041
02:30:09,110 --> 02:30:07,040
actually

4042
02:30:10,950 --> 02:30:09,120
to convince me that some of these things

4043
02:30:12,870 --> 02:30:10,960
for a lack of a better term are

4044
02:30:14,469 --> 02:30:12,880
interdimensional that there's a physical

4045
02:30:16,230 --> 02:30:14,479
and nonsensical component to these

4046
02:30:17,910 --> 02:30:16,240
things and there's things we haven't

4047
02:30:20,309 --> 02:30:17,920
even gotten into today there's all kind

4048
02:30:22,230 --> 02:30:20,319
of weird creature reports and here's one

4049
02:30:25,110 --> 02:30:22,240
that kind of stuck out this was not too

4050
02:30:28,150 --> 02:30:25,120
long ago this was late august i think

4051
02:30:29,830 --> 02:30:28,160
early september of 2015. this is back up

4052
02:30:31,990 --> 02:30:29,840
in buffalo county pa we talked about

4053
02:30:33,910 --> 02:30:32,000
butler county earlier with a gargoyle

4054
02:30:36,309 --> 02:30:33,920
this is a different witness different

4055
02:30:38,309 --> 02:30:36,319
area this is a beautiful afternoon i've

4056
02:30:40,710 --> 02:30:38,319
interviewed this person a number of

4057
02:30:43,110 --> 02:30:40,720
times in person as well again incredible

4058
02:30:45,670 --> 02:30:43,120
person who has no idea what it was that

4059
02:30:47,750 --> 02:30:45,680
this person saw and that's a strange

4060
02:30:49,270 --> 02:30:47,760
because well here's what they described

4061
02:30:50,790 --> 02:30:49,280
so she's riding down the road this

4062
02:30:52,230 --> 02:30:50,800
beautiful afternoon to sightseeing in

4063
02:30:54,630 --> 02:30:52,240
the scenic area

4064
02:30:56,150 --> 02:30:54,640
and about 15 to 20 feet away from her in

4065
02:30:58,389 --> 02:30:56,160
front of her vehicle

4066
02:31:00,469 --> 02:30:58,399
here's this thing that suddenly appears

4067
02:31:02,150 --> 02:31:00,479
about quarter of the way across the road

4068
02:31:04,150 --> 02:31:02,160
and the witness had a heck of a time

4069
02:31:06,230 --> 02:31:04,160
trying to describe what she saw to me

4070
02:31:08,870 --> 02:31:06,240
she said her first impression may have

4071
02:31:10,389 --> 02:31:08,880
been a dear because what she first saw

4072
02:31:12,950 --> 02:31:10,399
looked like maybe like the head of a

4073
02:31:15,030 --> 02:31:12,960
deer angled up but the head was not real

4074
02:31:17,670 --> 02:31:15,040
pointy in a narrow to the top and then

4075
02:31:20,469 --> 02:31:17,680
round it off but she said this thing was

4076
02:31:22,389 --> 02:31:20,479
the color of a deer and it was very thin

4077
02:31:24,150 --> 02:31:22,399
the body was thin and we stood about

4078
02:31:26,150 --> 02:31:24,160
four four and a half feet tall

4079
02:31:28,710 --> 02:31:26,160
the body appeared smooth and there was

4080
02:31:30,150 --> 02:31:28,720
no hair on the body that she could see

4081
02:31:32,550 --> 02:31:30,160
she said whatever this thing was she

4082
02:31:33,910 --> 02:31:32,560
only saw it from the side it kept moving

4083
02:31:35,110 --> 02:31:33,920
straight along and never looked in her

4084
02:31:37,349 --> 02:31:35,120
direction

4085
02:31:38,870 --> 02:31:37,359
and she said the arms looked to be very

4086
02:31:41,190 --> 02:31:38,880
sure in that proportion the rest of the

4087
02:31:44,550 --> 02:31:41,200
body the arms were held close to that

4088
02:31:46,150 --> 02:31:44,560
chest area the hands were very small

4089
02:31:47,830 --> 02:31:46,160
and she couldn't tell but she thought

4090
02:31:50,630 --> 02:31:47,840
they were either there was something

4091
02:31:52,630 --> 02:31:50,640
being held in the hand or possibly

4092
02:31:54,389 --> 02:31:52,640
you know just being held together

4093
02:31:56,790 --> 02:31:54,399
but the witness said there appear to be

4094
02:31:59,110 --> 02:31:56,800
something underneath it down the lower

4095
02:32:01,030 --> 02:31:59,120
extremity maybe like a fabric

4096
02:32:02,389 --> 02:32:01,040
around the legs but she could see no

4097
02:32:04,150 --> 02:32:02,399
legs or feet

4098
02:32:06,870 --> 02:32:04,160
and the witness stated that this thing

4099
02:32:08,469 --> 02:32:06,880
was gliding above the roadway and i've

4100
02:32:10,630 --> 02:32:08,479
had other reports over the years of

4101
02:32:13,030 --> 02:32:10,640
various entities that were floating

4102
02:32:14,950 --> 02:32:13,040
across the roadway even case where these

4103
02:32:16,389 --> 02:32:14,960
entities appeared in people's homes and

4104
02:32:17,429 --> 02:32:16,399
they're floating in the bedroom you

4105
02:32:20,070 --> 02:32:17,439
probably heard about some of those

4106
02:32:22,950 --> 02:32:20,080
stories but anyhow this thing she said

4107
02:32:25,510 --> 02:32:22,960
she noticed that there was an odd effect

4108
02:32:27,590 --> 02:32:25,520
that was actually behind the head of the

4109
02:32:29,670 --> 02:32:27,600
creature whatever it was she said it

4110
02:32:31,750 --> 02:32:29,680
looked like it was kind of like in a

4111
02:32:33,429 --> 02:32:31,760
time lapse picture

4112
02:32:35,270 --> 02:32:33,439
like a cartoon when the character was

4113
02:32:37,510 --> 02:32:35,280
moving so fast the body couldn't keep up

4114
02:32:39,910 --> 02:32:37,520
with it she said that it looked like the

4115
02:32:42,790 --> 02:32:39,920
head portion was losing streaks of

4116
02:32:44,950 --> 02:32:42,800
matter as it glided across the road

4117
02:32:46,389 --> 02:32:44,960
so she drives up to the area within

4118
02:32:48,550 --> 02:32:46,399
seconds she's there where the thing is

4119
02:32:51,349 --> 02:32:48,560
crossing the road she stops and looks

4120
02:32:52,950 --> 02:32:51,359
all around it's nowhere to be seen

4121
02:32:55,030 --> 02:32:52,960
she watched this thing for around seven

4122
02:32:57,429 --> 02:32:55,040
to eight seconds she said she couldn't

4123
02:32:59,030 --> 02:32:57,439
understand how this thing just suddenly

4124
02:33:01,429 --> 02:32:59,040
came out of nowhere in the middle of the

4125
02:33:02,710 --> 02:33:01,439
road and just appeared because she

4126
02:33:04,710 --> 02:33:02,720
should have seen if i already had been

4127
02:33:07,030 --> 02:33:04,720
there going across the road and she

4128
02:33:08,790 --> 02:33:07,040
still has no idea what this thing was

4129
02:33:11,190 --> 02:33:08,800
that's bizarre

4130
02:33:13,110 --> 02:33:11,200
what is it about pennsylvania man you

4131
02:33:14,710 --> 02:33:13,120
get the quality of your your reports

4132
02:33:16,950 --> 02:33:14,720
there the weirdness of some of the

4133
02:33:18,950 --> 02:33:16,960
descriptions uh i i can't think of any

4134
02:33:20,630 --> 02:33:18,960
other place that can match it yeah i

4135
02:33:22,389 --> 02:33:20,640
mean the last several years some of the

4136
02:33:24,710 --> 02:33:22,399
reports we haven't gone into there are

4137
02:33:26,710 --> 02:33:24,720
things nobody's even heard about before

4138
02:33:29,190 --> 02:33:26,720
i mean there's so many weird things

4139
02:33:31,670 --> 02:33:29,200
going on from so many different people

4140
02:33:33,670 --> 02:33:31,680
from widespread areas and again most of

4141
02:33:35,030 --> 02:33:33,680
these people have no interest in anybody

4142
02:33:38,550 --> 02:33:35,040
knowing who they are

4143
02:33:40,790 --> 02:33:38,560
right now i remember living in southeast

4144
02:33:42,790 --> 02:33:40,800
pennsylvania for several years some of

4145
02:33:44,630 --> 02:33:42,800
the happiest years of my life and there

4146
02:33:47,190 --> 02:33:44,640
were a lot of strange things there but i

4147
02:33:49,190 --> 02:33:47,200
hesitate to say that i was a strange

4148
02:33:52,150 --> 02:33:49,200
thing that left pennsylvania oh by the

4149
02:33:54,309 --> 02:33:52,160
way the movie with the creature with the

4150
02:33:55,590 --> 02:33:54,319
slight backwards problem with their

4151
02:33:59,309 --> 02:33:55,600
physiology

4152
02:34:02,790 --> 02:33:59,319
yeah it's not a rival but the arrival a

4153
02:34:05,110 --> 02:34:02,800
1996 sci-fi film with

4154
02:34:07,030 --> 02:34:05,120
charlie sheen as a star oh that's right

4155
02:34:08,950 --> 02:34:07,040
i really remember that yeah that's it

4156
02:34:11,349 --> 02:34:08,960
you got it good good memory

4157
02:34:12,469 --> 02:34:11,359
well i had a little help

4158
02:34:14,150 --> 02:34:12,479
okay

4159
02:34:16,389 --> 02:34:14,160
what were your search terms

4160
02:34:19,030 --> 02:34:16,399
backward bending knees

4161
02:34:20,870 --> 02:34:19,040
you got it that was it that was it

4162
02:34:23,510 --> 02:34:20,880
that's what i used and it was the first

4163
02:34:25,349 --> 02:34:23,520
item that came up believe it or not okay

4164
02:34:26,710 --> 02:34:25,359
where do you go from here

4165
02:34:28,150 --> 02:34:26,720
stan gordon

4166
02:34:29,750 --> 02:34:28,160
well i guess i'll wait for the next

4167
02:34:31,750 --> 02:34:29,760
phone call which probably could come at

4168
02:34:34,230 --> 02:34:31,760
any time and

4169
02:34:35,990 --> 02:34:34,240
let's pursue those reports and say

4170
02:34:37,510 --> 02:34:36,000
maybe that next phone call will give us

4171
02:34:40,150 --> 02:34:37,520
that case it gives us that evidence

4172
02:34:42,150 --> 02:34:40,160
we're looking for you just never know

4173
02:34:44,710 --> 02:34:42,160
well we're not getting any younger my

4174
02:34:46,950 --> 02:34:44,720
friend i know that the way things are

4175
02:34:49,990 --> 02:34:46,960
you know we can probably hang out for

4176
02:34:52,469 --> 02:34:50,000
another 10 20 30 years let's hope we do

4177
02:34:54,150 --> 02:34:52,479
and in 20 30 years

4178
02:34:56,309 --> 02:34:54,160
our science may have advanced

4179
02:34:58,309 --> 02:34:56,319
dramatically and our instrumentation may

4180
02:35:00,469 --> 02:34:58,319
have advanced dramatically that we're

4181
02:35:01,910 --> 02:35:00,479
able to come up with some of the secrets

4182
02:35:03,910 --> 02:35:01,920
of some of the phenomena we're dealing

4183
02:35:05,910 --> 02:35:03,920
with well i'm not going to hold my

4184
02:35:07,590 --> 02:35:05,920
breath in my lifetime that's for sure

4185
02:35:09,510 --> 02:35:07,600
well i understand that's gotta be more

4186
02:35:11,349 --> 02:35:09,520
and more difficult for you chris holding

4187
02:35:13,190 --> 02:35:11,359
your breath so i don't even want to get

4188
02:35:15,910 --> 02:35:13,200
into that

4189
02:35:17,830 --> 02:35:15,920
but yeah i don't expect any answers i

4190
02:35:19,670 --> 02:35:17,840
think when i was very young i thought ah

4191
02:35:21,510 --> 02:35:19,680
well we'll get this all figured out

4192
02:35:23,510 --> 02:35:21,520
because that was what was conveyed in

4193
02:35:25,670 --> 02:35:23,520
the ufo books at the time we just need a

4194
02:35:27,030 --> 02:35:25,680
little bit more and we'll have it all

4195
02:35:30,150 --> 02:35:27,040
solved for us

4196
02:35:32,389 --> 02:35:30,160
and then year after year passes

4197
02:35:33,990 --> 02:35:32,399
and some say well it's all gone the ufos

4198
02:35:35,750 --> 02:35:34,000
have left us and then there are more and

4199
02:35:37,190 --> 02:35:35,760
more cases just

4200
02:35:38,870 --> 02:35:37,200
looking at your

4201
02:35:41,990 --> 02:35:38,880
news release here

4202
02:35:43,830 --> 02:35:42,000
with loads of sightings in pennsylvania

4203
02:35:45,510 --> 02:35:43,840
it just never stops

4204
02:35:47,510 --> 02:35:45,520
it never ends and you know that people

4205
02:35:49,670 --> 02:35:47,520
go to my website at stan gordon dot info

4206
02:35:51,990 --> 02:35:49,680
they can review that report and a lot of

4207
02:35:54,309 --> 02:35:52,000
other cases that are on there it's just

4208
02:35:55,510 --> 02:35:54,319
a year-round phenomenon occurs all year

4209
02:35:57,429 --> 02:35:55,520
round than all type of weather

4210
02:36:00,469 --> 02:35:57,439
conditions during the afternoon during

4211
02:36:01,429 --> 02:36:00,479
snowstorms all kind of reports all year

4212
02:36:03,429 --> 02:36:01,439
round

4213
02:36:04,950 --> 02:36:03,439
if listeners want to know more about the

4214
02:36:06,550 --> 02:36:04,960
work that you're doing and if they're in

4215
02:36:08,070 --> 02:36:06,560
pennsylvania they need to get in touch

4216
02:36:10,309 --> 02:36:08,080
with you because they saw something

4217
02:36:11,950 --> 02:36:10,319
where do they go well go to my website

4218
02:36:15,670 --> 02:36:11,960
which would be

4219
02:36:17,190 --> 02:36:15,680
www.stan gordon g-o-r-d-o-n dot info

4220
02:36:19,670 --> 02:36:17,200
info

4221
02:36:21,630 --> 02:36:19,680
email the best one to reach me is it

4222
02:36:24,950 --> 02:36:21,640
like pennsylvania

4223
02:36:26,389 --> 02:36:24,960
p-a-u-f-o at comcast.net

4224
02:36:28,389 --> 02:36:26,399
they want to pick up copy one of my

4225
02:36:30,950 --> 02:36:28,399
books the book is very popular silent

4226
02:36:33,429 --> 02:36:30,960
invasion the pennsylvania ufo bigfoot

4227
02:36:34,429 --> 02:36:33,439
casebook which gets into all the weird

4228
02:36:37,510 --> 02:36:34,439
stuff with the

4229
02:36:39,349 --> 02:36:37,520
73-74 outbreak with bigfoot ufos and

4230
02:36:41,429 --> 02:36:39,359
then the newest book is astonishing

4231
02:36:43,270 --> 02:36:41,439
encounters pennsylvania's unknown

4232
02:36:44,870 --> 02:36:43,280
creatures and then the first book was

4233
02:36:47,230 --> 02:36:44,880
really mysterious pennsylvania so they

4234
02:36:49,590 --> 02:36:47,240
can get those at amazon.com or

4235
02:36:51,429 --> 02:36:49,600
barnesandnoble.com or they can get the

4236
02:36:53,910 --> 02:36:51,439
autographed copies on my website again

4237
02:36:55,190 --> 02:36:53,920
at stan gordon dot info we'll check it

4238
02:36:56,870 --> 02:36:55,200
out we'll have the link on the

4239
02:36:58,790 --> 02:36:56,880
powercast.com

4240
02:37:01,190 --> 02:36:58,800
chris o'brien's site by the way

4241
02:37:03,190 --> 02:37:01,200
ourstrangeplanet.com

4242
02:37:05,190 --> 02:37:03,200
has been getting fairly consistent

4243
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updates in recent weeks and we've done a

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few things to help make it more secure

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that he just learned about today

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4247
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4250
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gordon thanks for joining us on the

4284
02:38:46,309 --> 02:38:44,800
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4285
02:38:47,990 --> 02:38:46,319
thanks for having me on we appreciate it

4286
02:38:51,260 --> 02:38:48,000
was great talking to you fellas again

4287
02:39:04,150 --> 02:38:51,270
cool stan good job man

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